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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
To: James Bottomley
	<James.Bottomley-d9PhHud1JfjCXq6kfMZ53/egYHeGw8Jk@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux EFI <linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Fleming
	<matt-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>,
	Jiri Kosina <jkosina-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	X86-ML <x86-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/4] EFI 1:1 mapping
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 16:21:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130603152122.GA21312@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1370270282.2910.9.camel@dabdike>

On Mon, Jun 03, 2013 at 07:38:02AM -0700, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-06-03 at 15:30 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> > Windows calls SetVirtualAddressMap(), so the only way these systems have 
> > been tested is with SetVirtualAddressMap().
> 
> I know, but that's not what I said.
> 
> If you look at the implementation, SetVirtualAddressMap() does a massive
> pointer chase through the images.  It not only tries to relocate the
> text and data, but it also tries to relocate all the users of the data.
> Some of these sources of data are boot time and some runtime.  Those
> both need to be relocated by a separate pointer chase.  What we saw with
> the QueryVariableInfo() problem was that a boot time pointer wasn't
> relocated.  That's got to mean that windows only calls QueryVariableInfo
> from runtime.

Sure.

> My point is that if we elect to call SetVirtualAddressMap() we'll be
> restricted to only making the calls at boot time that windows does
> otherwise we'll end up with these unrelocated pointers.  That's a huge
> nasty verification burden on us.  Alternatively, if we never call
> SetVirtualAddressMap() it seems to me that we just don't have to worry
> about pointer relocation issues.  Thus, I think it would be better we
> use the 1:1 mapping instead of calling SetVirtualAddressMap().

Some hardware just arbitrarily fails some calls if 
SetVirtualAddressMap() isn't called. As you pointed out, the only 
situation that these systems are ever tested in is the one where calls 
are made in roughly the same order as Windows, ie:

Calls made in boot services:

GetTime()
Getvariable()
ExitBootServices()

Calls made in runtime:

SetVirtualAddressMap()
GetNextVariable()
GetVariable()
SetVariable()

So far I haven't been able to convince Windows to make any other runtime 
calls, which makes me a little unhappy about even calling 
QueryVariableInfo() during runtime, but on the other hand our options 
there are either to call it or to kill Samsungs, so I think we're stuck 
with it. But, overall, refusing to call SetVirtualAddressMap() simply 
isn't an option.

-- 
Matthew Garrett | mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org

  reply	other threads:[~2013-06-03 15:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-02 12:56 [PATCH 0/4] EFI 1:1 mapping Borislav Petkov
     [not found] ` <1370177770-26661-1-git-send-email-bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-02 12:56   ` [PATCH 1/4] efi: Convert runtime services function ptrs Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 10:07     ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]       ` <20130606100745.GF30420-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-11  6:49         ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]           ` <20130611064912.GG31198-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-11  9:33             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-02 12:56   ` [PATCH 2/4] x86, cpa: Map in an arbitrary pgd Borislav Petkov
     [not found]     ` <1370177770-26661-3-git-send-email-bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 10:22       ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]         ` <20130606102233.GG30420-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:24           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 13:30             ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]               ` <20130606133023.GJ30420-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:33                 ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-02 12:56   ` [PATCH 3/4] x86, efi: Add an efi= kernel command line parameter Borislav Petkov
     [not found]     ` <1370177770-26661-4-git-send-email-bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-04 12:18       ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 10:42       ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]         ` <20130606104224.GH30420-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:26           ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]             ` <20130606132603.GD20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:36               ` Matt Fleming
2013-06-06 17:50               ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                 ` <20130606175052.GA1285-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 18:51                   ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                     ` <20130606185140.GK20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 19:35                       ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                         ` <20130606193548.GA2946-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 19:41                           ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                             ` <20130606194134.GN20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 19:54                               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-06 20:07                                 ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                   ` <20130606200705.GO20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 20:18                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-06 20:27                                       ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                         ` <20130606202717.GP20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 20:30                                           ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                             ` <20130606203057.GA4237-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 20:44                                               ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                                 ` <20130606204410.GQ20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 20:50                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                     ` <20130606205057.GA4363-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 21:02                                                       ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                                         ` <20130606210218.GR20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 21:03                                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-02 12:56   ` [PATCH 4/4] x86, efi: Map runtime services 1:1 Borislav Petkov
     [not found]     ` <1370177770-26661-5-git-send-email-bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:14       ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]         ` <20130606131439.GI30420-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 13:29           ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]             ` <20130606132908.GE20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 15:58               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-06 19:28                 ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                   ` <51B0E2D4.3040007-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 19:36                     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                       ` <20130606193612.GM20972-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-06 19:38                         ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                           ` <51B0E522.4070005-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-10 12:55                             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-06-02 22:56 ` [PATCH 0/4] EFI 1:1 mapping Matthew Garrett
     [not found]   ` <20130602225620.GA5496-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03  8:11     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]       ` <20130603081148.GB13607-K5JNixvcfoxupOikMc4+xw@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03 14:27         ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 14:30           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-06-03 14:38             ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 15:21               ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2013-06-03 16:18                 ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 16:24                   ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                     ` <20130603162435.GA22563-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03 16:35                       ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 16:42                         ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                           ` <20130603164237.GA23146-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03 18:05                             ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 18:11                               ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                 ` <20130603181110.GA25060-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03 21:19                                   ` James Bottomley
2013-06-03 21:29                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2014-02-10  3:59                             ` Linux, UEFI, and Chromebooks (was RE: [PATCH 0/4] EFI 1:1 mapping) Yuhong Bao
2013-06-03 14:32       ` [PATCH 0/4] EFI 1:1 mapping Matthew Garrett
     [not found]         ` <20130603143252.GB20252-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-03 14:54           ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]             ` <20130603145412.GJ2004-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-06-04  8:15               ` Borislav Petkov

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