From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Matthew Garrett Subject: Re: UEFI Plugfest 2013 -- New Orleans Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 21:39:37 +0100 Message-ID: <20130819203937.GA28967@srcf.ucam.org> References: <1376900735.2322.26.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20130819125507.GA19093@srcf.ucam.org> <1376925765.2069.24.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20130819160018.GA22532@srcf.ucam.org> <1376931775.2069.46.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <20130819172139.GA24393@srcf.ucam.org> <1376933926.2069.52.camel@dabdike.int.hansenpartnership.com> <1376942994.2322.39.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> <20130819201952.GA28740@srcf.ucam.org> <1376943671.2322.40.camel@shinybook.infradead.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1376943671.2322.40.camel-Fexsq3y4057IgHVZqg5X0TlWvGAXklZc@public.gmane.org> Sender: linux-efi-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org To: David Woodhouse Cc: James Bottomley , "John W. Linville" , linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org, linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org List-Id: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 09:21:11PM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote: > On Mon, 2013-08-19 at 21:19 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote: > > > > We have no way to guarantee that. Most board vendors don't turn up to > > the plugfests and aren't going to run anything we ship. > > Oh well, let's just wring our hands and not bother to turn up to the > plugfest at all then. No point trying to *improve* the situation, after > all. The plugfests have, from our perspective, always been useful in identifying new implementation interpretations before hardware ships. But even then, it's usually too late to modify the firmware. Vendors who care about Linux compatibility have already tested Linux before we turn up. -- Matthew Garrett | mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org