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From: Josh Triplett <josh-iaAMLnmF4UmaiuxdJuQwMA@public.gmane.org>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [edk2] Corrupted EFI region
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2013 09:29:54 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130916162918.GA4555@leaf> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <523730F2.40408-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Sep 16, 2013 at 06:25:22PM +0200, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 09/16/13 17:57, Josh Triplett wrote:
> 
> >> The edk2 commit that flipped the memory type underneath the image data
> >> from EfiReservedMemoryType to EfiBootServicesData is:
> >>
> >>     https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/commit/4c58575e
> >>
> >> I think this commit is wrong. It's fine for OSPM to release the image
> >> data at some point, but not right after ExitBootServices(), because
> >> referencing pointers in ACPI tables survive strictly longer.
> >>
> >> ... Actually, the commit does follow the ACPI spec 5.0:
> >>
> >> 5.2.22.4 Image Address
> >>
> >>     The Image Address contains the location in memory where an
> >>     in-memory copy of the boot image can be found. The image should be
> >>     stored in EfiBootServicesData, allowing the system to reclaim
> >>     the memory when the image is no longer needed.
> >>
> >> The ACPI spec 5.0 should recommend EfiACPIReclaimMemory here IMO. (I
> >> take the current wording ("should be stored") as a recommendation only.)
> > 
> > I agree that UEFI *should* store the BGRT in EfiACPIReclaimMemory, but
> > in practice the UEFI firmware I've seen with a BGRT does follow that
> > recommendation and store it in EfiBootServicesData.  So, even if the
> > recommendation in the spec changed, the kernel would still have to
> > accomodate both possibilities.
> 
> Just for the theoretical debate:
> 
> The edk2 commit linked above is 5 days old. All UEFI firmware in the
> wild (on released hardware) should be using EfiReservedMemoryType (the
> pre-patch memory type), which is even stricter.
> 
> EfiReservedMemoryType can never be released & repurposed, so it should
> make no difference for crash kernel allocation, shouldn't it?
> 
> - call efi_free_boot_services() -- doesn't touch the image data (which
>   is in RAM of EfiReservedMemoryType),
> - reserve crash kernel,
> - access BGRT via ACPI.
> 
> BGRT had appeared in edk2 with
> 
>   https://github.com/tianocore/edk2/commit/0284e90c
> 
> and EfiReservedMemoryType used to be the allocation type until commit
> 4c58575e.
> 
> Or are you alluding to UEFI firmware that's not based on TianoCore?

I'm saying, in practice, that the systems I tested BGRT support on and
submitted patches for stored the BGRT's image in EfiBootServicesData.

- Josh Triplett

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-09-16 16:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-31 20:54 Corrupted EFI region Borislav Petkov
     [not found] ` <20130731205431.GG4724-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-31 20:58   ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]     ` <20130731205858.GA1678-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-31 21:51       ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]         ` <20130731215130.GA6087-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-31 21:54           ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]             ` <20130731215423.GA2628-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-01 16:51               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-07-31 21:55   ` David Woodhouse
     [not found]     ` <1375307727.22084.103.camel-Fexsq3y4057IgHVZqg5X0TlWvGAXklZc@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-01 16:49       ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]         ` <20130801164927.GA7445-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 11:27           ` [edk2] " Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]             ` <51FF8C14.2070405-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 13:02               ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                 ` <20130805130258.GB31845-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 13:39                   ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 14:03                     ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                       ` <20130805140306.GD31845-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 14:27                         ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]                           ` <51FFB660.4060400-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 14:40                             ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 15:15                               ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]                                 ` <51FFC19A.1020204-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 15:34                                   ` James Bottomley
2013-08-05 16:27                                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 16:12                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 16:41                                     ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]                                       ` <51FFD5B0.9080000-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 16:47                                         ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                           ` <20130805164731.GG31845-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 17:00                                             ` Kinney, Michael D
2013-08-05 17:09                                           ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 21:26                                           ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-05 22:08                                             ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                               ` <20130805220808.GC14067-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-06 14:10                                                 ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                                   ` <20130806141036.GD14891-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-06 15:31                                                     ` Laszlo Ersek
2013-08-07 15:19                                                       ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                                         ` <20130807151935.GJ17920-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 17:23                                                           ` Andrew Fish
     [not found]                                                             ` <CCFD3CBD-62B0-4046-B96D-18CB1A815F72-2kanFRK1NckAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 20:19                                                               ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                                                                 ` <20130807201908.GG2515-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-07 20:24                                                                   ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-07 21:10                                                                   ` Andrew Fish
2013-08-07 21:23                                                                     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                                     ` <D5982201-6DC4-469F-812A-74A8402ADEE9-2kanFRK1NckAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-08 10:17                                                                       ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                                                                         ` <20130808101730.GJ2515-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-08 13:46                                                                           ` Andrew Fish
     [not found]                                                                             ` <1AEC7AA8-D49E-485F-A634-31B4F0D07083-2kanFRK1NckAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-02  8:19                                                                               ` Matt Fleming
2013-09-13 20:38                                                                           ` jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY
     [not found]                                                                             ` <20130913203812.GA312-dMAi7lA+vBPDUbYHzcRnttBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 10:59                                                                               ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                                                                                 ` <20130916105920.GB2697-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 11:50                                                                                   ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]                                                                                     ` <5236F096.8040702-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 15:57                                                                                       ` Josh Triplett
2013-09-16 16:25                                                                                         ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <523730F2.40408-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 16:27                                                                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-16 16:29                                                                                             ` Josh Triplett [this message]
2013-09-18 19:24                                                                                   ` jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY
2013-09-20  9:06                                                                                     ` Matt Fleming
2013-08-07 17:49                                                           ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]                                                             ` <5202889C.2080608-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-08 15:02                                                               ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-08 21:45                                                                 ` Brian J. Johnson
2013-08-18  7:33                                                               ` Jordan Justen
2013-08-05 15:50                               ` Andrew Fish
     [not found]                                 ` <2DBE3EA4-E321-4A7B-B9AF-EDE55BC2E358-2kanFRK1NckAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 18:12                                   ` Borislav Petkov
2013-08-05 21:37                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                       ` <52001B04.2050806-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 21:41                                         ` Borislav Petkov
     [not found]                                           ` <20130805214140.GB14067-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 21:49                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-08-05 21:55                                             ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]                                               ` <52001F6B.4000800-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-05 22:52                                                 ` James Bottomley
     [not found]                                                   ` <1375743157.18481.14.camel-sFMDBYUN5F8GjUHQrlYNx2Wm91YjaHnnhRte9Li2A+AAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-08-06  7:26                                                     ` Laszlo Ersek

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