From: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Bart Kuivenhoven <bemk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Matt Fleming
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86 efi: bugfix interrupt disabling sequence
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 09:50:02 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130921075002.GB7771@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1379708486.12705.131.camel-0VdLhd/A9PkhetGgFr3ssPXAX3CI6PSWQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
* Bart Kuivenhoven <bemk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2013-09-20 at 16:28 +0100, Matt Fleming wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Sep, at 07:28:53PM, Bart Kuivenhoven wrote:
> > > The problem in efi_main was that the idt was cleared before the
> > > interrupts were disabled.
> > >
> > > The UEFI spec states that interrupts aren't used so this shouldn't be
> > > too much of a problem. Peripherals however don't necessarily know about
> > > this and thus might cause interrupts to happen anyway. Even if
> > > ExitBootServices() has been called.
> > >
> > > This means there is a risk of an interrupt being triggered while the IDT
> > > register is nullified and the interrupt bit hasn't been cleared,
> > > allowing for a triple fault.
> >
> > Just to be clear, you haven't witnessed a triple fault, correct?
> >
> > > This patch fixes this by clearing the interrupt bit before the lidt
> > > instruction.
> >
> > I think we can go even further than this and get rid of all of the IDT
> > code in the EFI boot stub. The kernel maintains its own IDT anyway.
> >
>
> Well, isn't it so, that the kernel expects a setup in which interrupts
> are disabled before the decompressed image is loaded?
>
> What we can do is remove the lidt instruction and IDT pointer, but that
> still doesn't change anything with regards to the kernels expectations.
>
> And no, I haven't witnessed a triple fault, this is purely theoretical,
> with a very slim chance of it actually happening. That does not mean
> that it can't happen though.
it would also be very hard to prove that it occured (outside of special
debug environments) - spurious, low probability triple faults are as
undebuggable as it gets.
Thanks,
Ingo
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Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-18 17:28 [PATCH] x86 efi: bugfix interrupt disabling sequence Bart Kuivenhoven
[not found] ` <1379525333-4373-1-git-send-email-bemk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-20 15:28 ` Matt Fleming
2013-09-20 20:21 ` Bart Kuivenhoven
[not found] ` <1379708486.12705.131.camel-0VdLhd/A9PkhetGgFr3ssPXAX3CI6PSWQQ4Iyu8u01E@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-21 7:50 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2013-09-21 15:41 ` Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20130921154127.GD21381-HNK1S37rvNbeXh+fF434Mdi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-23 9:27 ` Bart Kuivenhoven
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2013-09-23 9:45 Bart Kuivenhoven
[not found] ` <1379929528-7534-1-git-send-email-bemk-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-25 13:12 ` Matt Fleming
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