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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>
Cc: "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/14] efi: runtime-wrappers: Run UEFI Runtime Services with interrupts enabled
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 10:43:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160203094340.GA15890@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1454364428-494-8-git-send-email-matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>


* Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
> 
> The UEFI spec allows Runtime Services to be invoked with interrupts
> enabled. The only reason we were disabling interrupts was to prevent
> recursive calls into the services on the same CPU, which will lead to
> deadlock. However, the only context where such invocations may occur
> legally is from efi-pstore via efivars, and that code has been updated
> to call a non-blocking alternative when invoked from a non-interruptible
> context.
> 
> So instead, update the ordinary, blocking UEFI Runtime Services wrappers
> to execute with interrupts enabled. This aims to prevent excessive interrupt
> latencies on uniprocessor platforms with slow variable stores.

Well, those excessive latencies would affect SMP platforms as well, just that 
there are (usually) other CPUs free to do execution, right?

More fundamentally, this makes me nervous:

 > The UEFI spec allows Runtime Services to be invoked with interrupts enabled. 
 > [...]

So what really matters is not what the spec says, but how Windows executes UEFI 
firmware code in practice.

If major versions of Windows calls UEFI firmware with interrupts disabled, then 
frankly I don't think we should interrupt them under Linux either, regardless of 
what the spec says ...

Random firmware code getting interrupted by the OS changes timings and might have 
other side effects the firmware code might not expect - so the question is, does 
Windows already de facto allow the IRQ preemption of firmware calls?

Also, this:

> -	unsigned long flags;
>  	efi_status_t status;
>  
> -	spin_lock_irqsave(&efi_runtime_lock, flags);
> +	BUG_ON(in_irq());
> +
> +	spin_lock(&efi_runtime_lock);

... how does crashing the kernel help debuggability?

Please use WARN_ON_ONCE() - or in fact, this assert is probably not needed at all, 
as lockdep will warn about IRQ unsafe lock usage.

I'd add comments to the efi_runtime_lock definition site explaining that this is 
never taken from IRQ contexts.

Thanks,

	Ingo

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-03  9:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-01 22:06 [GIT PULL 00/14] EFI changes for v4.6 Matt Fleming
2016-02-01 22:06 ` [PATCH 01/14] efi: Expose non-blocking set_variable() wrapper to efivars Matt Fleming
     [not found] ` <1454364428-494-1-git-send-email-matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-01 22:06   ` [PATCH 02/14] efi: Remove redundant efi_set_variable_nonblocking prototype Matt Fleming
2016-02-01 22:06   ` [PATCH 03/14] efi: runtime-wrappers: Add a nonblocking version of QueryVariableInfo Matt Fleming
2016-02-01 22:07   ` [PATCH 06/14] efi: runtime-wrapper: Get rid of the rtc_lock spinlock Matt Fleming
2016-02-01 22:07   ` [PATCH 10/14] efi: Make checkpatch complain less about efi.h GUID additions Matt Fleming
     [not found]     ` <1454364428-494-11-git-send-email-matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-03 10:33       ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-03 10:44         ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]           ` <20160203104432.GA2597-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-03 10:50             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-03 11:18               ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                 ` <20160203111838.GB2597-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-03 11:27                   ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-03 11:09         ` Joe Perches
2016-02-01 22:06 ` [PATCH 04/14] efi: Add nonblocking option to efi_query_variable_store() Matt Fleming
2016-02-01 22:06 ` [PATCH 05/14] efi: runtime-wrappers: Remove out of date comment regarding in_nmi() Matt Fleming
2016-02-01 22:07 ` [PATCH 07/14] efi: runtime-wrappers: Run UEFI Runtime Services with interrupts enabled Matt Fleming
2016-02-03  9:43   ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
     [not found]     ` <20160203094340.GA15890-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-03  9:57       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-02-03 10:58         ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-03 11:33           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-02-03 12:01             ` Matt Fleming
2016-02-04 13:58           ` [PATCH] efi: runtime-wrappers: run " Ard Biesheuvel
2016-02-08 15:16             ` Matt Fleming
2016-02-08 19:37             ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]               ` <CALCETrWWLGjqXmPKs7wF3uJ+jR-xctU0eYOESdVxMm5b4w8JMw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-09 16:52                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2016-02-11 16:03                   ` Matt Fleming
2016-02-11 16:04               ` Matt Fleming
2016-02-01 22:07 ` [PATCH 08/14] efivars: Use to_efivar_entry Matt Fleming
2016-02-01 22:07 ` [PATCH 09/14] x86/efi-bgrt: Don't ignore the BGRT if the 'valid' bit is 0 Matt Fleming
2016-02-01 22:07 ` [PATCH 11/14] x86/efi: Show actual ending addresses in efi_print_memmap Matt Fleming
2016-02-02  8:49   ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-02-01 22:07 ` [PATCH 12/14] efi: Add NV memory attribute Matt Fleming
     [not found]   ` <1454364428-494-13-git-send-email-matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-02  8:54     ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-02-01 22:07 ` [PATCH 13/14] efi: Add Persistent Memory type name Matt Fleming
2016-02-02  8:56   ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-02-01 22:07 ` [PATCH 14/14] x86/efi: Print size in binary units in efi_print_memmap Matt Fleming
2016-02-02  9:22   ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-02-03 10:40     ` Ingo Molnar
2016-02-03 11:28       ` Matt Fleming
2016-02-03 12:36         ` Andy Shevchenko
     [not found]         ` <20160203112829.GC2597-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-03 15:25           ` Elliott, Robert (Persistent Memory)
2016-02-09 12:20             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]               ` <20160209122018.GA4178-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-09 12:53                 ` Laszlo Ersek
     [not found]                   ` <56B9E166.6030405-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-09 13:14                     ` Ingo Molnar

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