From: Matt Fleming <matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
To: Peter Jones <pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Laszlo Ersek <lersek-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
efi kernel list
<linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
Matthew Garrett <mjg59-1xO5oi07KQx4cg9Nei1l7Q@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] efi: Make efivarfs entries immutable by default. (v5)
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 10:48:01 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160215104801.GB2591@codeblueprint.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160212150948.GC31573-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
On Fri, 12 Feb, at 10:09:49AM, Peter Jones wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 02:36:28PM +0100, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> > On 02/04/16 16:34, Peter Jones wrote:
> > > "rm -rf" is bricking some peoples' laptops because of variables being
> > > used to store non-reinitializable firmware driver data that's required
> > > to POST the hardware.
> > >
> > > These are 100% bugs, and they need to be fixed, but in the mean time it
> > > shouldn't be easy to *accidentally* brick machines.
> > >
> > > We have to have delete working, and picking which variables do and don't
> > > work for deletion is quite intractable, so instead make everything
> > > immutable by default (except for a whitelist), and make tools that
> > > aren't quite so broad-spectrum unset the immutable flag.
> >
> > I think that the whitelist should include the following pattern
> > (permitting deletion):
> > - GUID: LINUX_EFI_CRASH_GUID
> > - variable name pattern: "dump-type*"
> >
> > This is because the pstore filesystem can be backed by UEFI variables,
> > and (for example) a crash might dump the last kilobytes of the dmesg
> > into a number of pstore entries, each entry backed by a separate UEFI
> > variable in the above GUID namespace, and with a variable name according
> > to the above pattern.
> >
> > Please see "drivers/firmware/efi/efi-pstore.c".
> >
> > While this patch series will not prevent the user from deleting those
> > UEFI variables via the pstore filesystem (i.e., deleting a pstore fs
> > entry will continue to delete the backing UEFI variable), I think it
> > would be nice to preserve the possibility for the sysadmin to delete
> > Linux-created UEFI variables that carry portions of the crash log,
> > *without* having to mount the pstore filesystem.
>
> They still have that ability with this patch - they have to chattr -i it
> manually, or use libefivar's efi_del_variable() with a suitably new
> libefivar, but we aren't ever actually stopping deletion.
>
> Which doesn't mean you're wrong, mind you, but it does remove urgency.
Well, we should avoid having different whitelists in different kernel
versions, so I think there is some urgency in fixing the efi-pstore
case now.
Remember, we're breaking userspace ABI with these changes, which is a
major downside that is only offset by the risk of bricking the
machine. There's no chance of bricking by deleting the efi-pstore
variables, so we'd be breaking userspace ABI for no reason.
Would something like this allow efi-pstore variables to be deleted
(and anything else that uses LINUX_EFI_CRASH_GUID in future)?
---
diff --git a/drivers/firmware/efi/vars.c b/drivers/firmware/efi/vars.c
index 50f10bad2604..7f2ea21c730d 100644
--- a/drivers/firmware/efi/vars.c
+++ b/drivers/firmware/efi/vars.c
@@ -198,6 +198,7 @@ static const struct variable_validate variable_validate[] = {
{ EFI_GLOBAL_VARIABLE_GUID, "OsIndications", NULL },
{ EFI_GLOBAL_VARIABLE_GUID, "PlatformLang", validate_ascii_string },
{ EFI_GLOBAL_VARIABLE_GUID, "Timeout", validate_uint16 },
+ { LINUX_EFI_CRASH_GUID, "*", NULL },
{ NULL_GUID, "", NULL },
};
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Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-04 15:34 efivarfs immutable files patch set Peter Jones
[not found] ` <1454600074-14854-1-git-send-email-pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 15:34 ` [PATCH 1/5] Add ucs2 -> utf8 helper functions Peter Jones
[not found] ` <1454600074-14854-2-git-send-email-pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-12 13:22 ` Laszlo Ersek
[not found] ` <56BDDC95.8030608-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-12 15:07 ` Peter Jones
2016-02-15 10:15 ` Matt Fleming
2016-02-04 15:34 ` [PATCH 2/5] efi: use ucs2_as_utf8 in efivarfs instead of open coding a bad version (v2) Peter Jones
[not found] ` <1454600074-14854-3-git-send-email-pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 22:06 ` Matt Fleming
2016-02-04 15:34 ` [PATCH 3/5] efi: do variable name validation tests in utf8 Peter Jones
[not found] ` <1454600074-14854-4-git-send-email-pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 21:39 ` Matt Fleming
2016-02-04 15:34 ` [PATCH 4/5] efi: make our variable validation list include the guid (v3) Peter Jones
[not found] ` <1454600074-14854-5-git-send-email-pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 22:54 ` Matt Fleming
2016-02-04 15:34 ` [PATCH 5/5] efi: Make efivarfs entries immutable by default. (v5) Peter Jones
[not found] ` <1454600074-14854-6-git-send-email-pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-04 23:42 ` Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20160204234211.GI2586-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-08 19:48 ` efi: make most efivarfs files immutable by default Peter Jones
2016-02-08 19:48 ` [PATCH 1/5] Add ucs2 -> utf8 helper functions Peter Jones
2016-02-08 19:48 ` [PATCH 3/5] efi: do variable name validation tests in utf8 (v2) Peter Jones
[not found] ` <1454960895-3473-1-git-send-email-pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-08 19:48 ` [PATCH 2/5] efi: use ucs2_as_utf8 in efivarfs instead of open coding a bad version (v3) Peter Jones
2016-02-08 19:48 ` [PATCH 4/5] efi: make our variable validation list include the guid (v3) Peter Jones
2016-02-10 13:22 ` efi: make most efivarfs files immutable by default Matt Fleming
[not found] ` <20160210132225.GA2949-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-10 14:51 ` [PATCH] efi: minor fixup in efivar_validate() declaration Peter Jones
[not found] ` <1455115862-2490-1-git-send-email-pjones-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-10 16:38 ` Matt Fleming
2016-02-08 19:48 ` [PATCH 5/5] efi: Make efivarfs entries immutable by default. (v5) Peter Jones
2016-02-12 13:36 ` Laszlo Ersek
[not found] ` <56BDDFDC.406-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-12 15:09 ` Peter Jones
[not found] ` <20160212150948.GC31573-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-15 10:48 ` Matt Fleming [this message]
[not found] ` <20160215104801.GB2591-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-15 17:02 ` Peter Jones
[not found] ` <20160215170215.GC785-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2016-02-16 12:49 ` Matt Fleming
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