From: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Dave Young <dyoung-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86/mm/KASLR: EFI region is mistakenly included into KASLR VA space for randomization
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2017 11:36:24 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170324103624.GA6231@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu_V_VAWuDtKyOY9RS+cdhi+c5z2a7n2kcXVybvvdmPYBw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
* Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> No. It is the firmware's EFI code, and the virtual translation applied by the OS
> is made known to the firmware by means of a call into the runtime service
> SetVirtualAddressMap(). This service can only be called once after each boot,
> and so kexec kernels are forced to use the same VA mapping for runtime services
> as the first kernel. This is the whole point of having a VA region reserved for
> this, so that kexec kernels are guaranteed to be able to use the same VA
> mapping.
Yes, but it's the kernel's EFI code that determines the area! So my suggestion:
> > Preserving virtual addresses for kexec is a red herring: the randomized offset
> > could be passed to the kexec-ed kernel just fine.
Would solve the kexec problem, right?
I.e. the first kernel that boots randomizes the address range - and passes that
offset off to any subsequent kernels.
Turning KASLR off actively degrades that randomization of the kernel virtual
addresses.
Am I missing anything?
Thanks,
Ingo
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Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-24 4:59 [PATCH v2] x86/mm/KASLR: EFI region is mistakenly included into KASLR VA space for randomization Baoquan He
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2017-03-24 8:08 ` Ingo Molnar
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2017-03-24 8:34 ` Baoquan He
2017-03-24 8:46 ` Dave Young
2017-03-24 9:24 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-24 9:36 ` Borislav Petkov
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2017-03-24 9:37 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-24 9:40 ` Borislav Petkov
2017-03-24 9:42 ` Ard Biesheuvel
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2017-03-24 9:46 ` Borislav Petkov
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2017-03-24 9:52 ` Ard Biesheuvel
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2017-03-24 10:36 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2017-03-24 10:42 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-03-24 10:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2017-03-24 11:52 ` Baoquan He
2017-03-24 8:53 ` Dave Young
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