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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Sai Praneeth Prakhya <sai.praneeth.prakhya@intel.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	joeyli <jlee@suse.com>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Neri, Ricardo" <ricardo.neri@intel.com>,
	"Ravi V. Shankar" <ravi.v.shankar@intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with cr3
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 11:35:15 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170817103514.GC27872@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170815223541.GA25778@remoulade>

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:35:41PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 09:14:41AM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Matt Fleming <matt@codeblueprint.co.uk> wrote:
> > > On Wed, 16 Aug, at 12:03:22PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I'd expect we'd abort at a higher level, not taking any sample. i.e.
> > >> we'd have the core overflow handler check in_funny_mm(), and if so, skip
> > >> the sample, as with the skid case.
> > >
> > > FYI, this is my preferred solution for x86 too.
> > 
> > One option for the "funny mm" flag would be literally the condition
> > current->mm != current->active_mm.  I *think* this gets all the cases
> > right as long as efi_switch_mm is careful with its ordering and that
> > the arch switch_mm() code can handle the resulting ordering.  (x86's
> > can now, I think, or at least will be able to in 4.14 -- not sure
> > about other arches).
> 
> For arm64 we'd have to rework things a bit to get the ordering right
> (especially when we flip to/from the idmap), but otherwise this sounds sane to
> me.
> 
> > That being said, there's a totally different solution: run EFI
> > callbacks in a kernel thread.  This has other benefits: we could run
> > those callbacks in user mode some day, and doing *that* in a user
> > thread seems like a mistake.
> 
> I think that wouldn't work for CPU-bound perf events (which are not
> ctx-switched with the task).
> 
> It might be desireable to do that anyway, though.

I'm still concerned that we're treating perf specially here -- are we
absolutely sure that nobody else is going to attempt user accesses off the
back of an interrupt? If not, then I'd much prefer a solution that catches
anybody doing that with the EFI page table installed, rather than trying
to play whack-a-mole like this.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-17 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-15 19:18 [PATCH 0/3] Use mm_struct and switch_mm() instead of manually Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 1/3] efi: Use efi_mm in x86 as well as ARM Sai Praneeth Prakhya
     [not found] ` <1502824706-30762-1-git-send-email-sai.praneeth.prakhya-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-15 19:18   ` [PATCH 2/3] x86/efi: Replace efi_pgd with efi_mm.pgd Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 19:18 ` [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with cr3 Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-15 21:46   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <CALCETrUnT0YL_F3mXyJzi=NE5jvFUUQbwjdK5224zDKkTts-UQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-16  0:23       ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
     [not found]         ` <1502843039.9150.19.camel-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-16  0:47           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-16  9:31     ` Ard Biesheuvel
     [not found]       ` <CAKv+Gu8AySQSXtRWfHA4y5DbH-DQ7jpqkp=tS+snSTar_sKBJw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-16  9:53         ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-16 10:07           ` Will Deacon
2017-08-16 11:03             ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-16 12:57               ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]                 ` <20170816125715.GB3384-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-16 16:14                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-15 22:35                     ` Mark Rutland
2017-08-17 10:35                       ` Will Deacon [this message]
     [not found]                         ` <20170817103514.GC27872-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-17 15:52                           ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                             ` <CALCETrVhLmntPArQiuOcQeNf9Y2kDxa+mUY=v1P8rVOkeCZn4Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-21 10:33                               ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                                 ` <20170821103359.jt2xf2cx5wxjldau-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-21 13:56                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 14:08                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                                       ` <20170821140813.idloyrk4lowann3j-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-21 15:23                                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                                           ` <6E0248C9-19AB-474E-A901-2A0422337DD0-kltTT9wpgjJwATOyAt5JVQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-21 15:59                                             ` Peter Zijlstra
     [not found]                                               ` <20170821155913.7bmmy7zaihpd6s7h-Nxj+rRp3nVydTX5a5knrm8zTDFooKrT+cvkQGrU6aU0@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-21 16:08                                                 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2017-08-23 22:52                                             ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
     [not found]                                               ` <1503528742.30475.17.camel-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-08-25 15:13                                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-21 17:24                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-25  2:36     ` Sai Praneeth Prakhya
2017-08-25 15:13       ` Andy Lutomirski
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-12-17  0:06 [PATCH 3/3] x86/efi: Use efi_switch_mm() rather than manually twiddling with %cr3 Sai Praneeth Prakhya

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