From: Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
Cc: linux-efi <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: Do Qualcomm drivers use DMA buffers for request_firmware_into_buf()?
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2018 17:08:08 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180626000808.GE1860@tuxbook-pro> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKv+Gu9yfa=dP-5Fzv8-E6O23zPJXJqquTAt6gCqYyt3OowkvA@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu 07 Jun 11:42 PDT 2018, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On 7 June 2018 at 20:21, Bjorn Andersson <bjorn.andersson@linaro.org> wrote:
> > On Thu 07 Jun 09:33 PDT 2018, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
[..]
> >>
> >> Why not just use kmalloc, it will always return a DMAable buffer.
> >>
> >
> > For the buffers being targeted by request_firmware_into_buf() the
> > problem is that some of them has requirements of physical placement and
> > they are all too big for kmalloc() (i.e. tens of mb).
> >
> >
> > For the dma_alloc_coherent() buffer that was mentioned earlier, which is
> > not related to the firmware loading, it's not used because the buffer is
> > passed to secure world, which temporarily locks Linux out from the
> > memory region. Traditionally this region was kmalloc'ed downstream, but
> > due to speculative access violations this code moved to use the DMA
> > streaming API, although there's no actual DMA going on.
> >
>
> OK, so you are relying on the fact that dma_alloc_coherent() gives you
> a device mapping (because the qcom_scm device is described as non
> cache coherent), but this sounds risky to me. The linear alias of that
> memory will still be mapped cacheable, and could potentially still be
> accessed speculatively AFAIK.
>
Yes and we are aware of the risk of having the linear alias present, but
have yet to find a suitable way to handle this.
The proposed mechanism was to use reserved-memory and memremap() the
region while it should be available in Linux, but while this would work
for some cases (e.g. memory regions for semi-static firmware executed by
co-processors) it doesn't handle the scenarios where the memory-need is
dynamic.
So suggestions are very welcome on how to better handle this.
Regards,
Bjorn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-06-26 0:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-08 17:40 [PATCH v3 0/5] efi/firmware/platform-x86: Add EFI embedded fw support Hans de Goede
2018-04-08 17:40 ` [PATCH v3 1/5] efi: Export boot-services code and data as debugfs-blobs Hans de Goede
2018-04-16 8:23 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-04-24 13:11 ` Hans de Goede
2018-04-23 11:55 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-04-08 17:40 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] efi: Add embedded peripheral firmware support Hans de Goede
2018-04-16 8:28 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-04-24 13:17 ` Hans de Goede
2018-04-17 0:17 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-04-17 8:58 ` Hans de Goede
2018-04-17 9:19 ` Hans de Goede
2018-04-23 21:11 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-04-24 15:09 ` Hans de Goede
2018-04-24 16:07 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-04-24 18:33 ` Hans de Goede
2018-04-24 23:42 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-04-25 5:00 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-04-25 17:55 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-04 0:21 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-04 15:26 ` Martijn Coenen
2018-05-04 19:44 ` Martijn Coenen
2018-05-08 15:38 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-05-08 16:10 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-07 16:49 ` Bjorn Andersson
2018-06-07 18:22 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-01 19:23 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-06 20:32 ` Do Qualcomm drivers use DMA buffers for request_firmware_into_buf()? Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-06 20:41 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-06-06 22:29 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-06 22:41 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-06-06 22:55 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-07 16:18 ` Bjorn Andersson
2018-06-07 16:23 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-06-07 16:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-06-07 16:43 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-06-07 16:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2018-06-07 16:56 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-06-07 18:21 ` Bjorn Andersson
2018-06-07 18:42 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-06-26 0:08 ` Bjorn Andersson [this message]
2018-06-27 18:00 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-27 22:21 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-06-27 23:33 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-27 23:42 ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-06-27 23:50 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-08 6:41 ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-06-07 18:06 ` Bjorn Andersson
2018-06-18 23:49 ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2018-06-07 16:33 ` [PATCH v3 2/5] efi: Add embedded peripheral firmware support Bjorn Andersson
2018-04-08 17:40 ` [PATCH v3 3/5] platform/x86: Rename silead_dmi to touchscreen_dmi Hans de Goede
2018-04-09 8:07 ` Andy Shevchenko
2018-04-20 0:20 ` Darren Hart
2018-04-08 17:40 ` [PATCH v3 4/5] platform/x86: touchscreen_dmi: Add EFI embedded firmware info support Hans de Goede
2018-04-08 17:40 ` [PATCH v3 5/5] platform/x86: touchscreen_dmi: Add info for the Chuwi Vi8 Plus tablet Hans de Goede
2018-04-09 8:10 ` Andy Shevchenko
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