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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>
Cc: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
	Ross Philipson <ross.philipson@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
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	dpsmith@apertussolutions.com, tglx@linutronix.de,
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	James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com, luto@amacapital.net,
	nivedita@alum.mit.edu, kanth.ghatraju@oracle.com,
	trenchboot-devel@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 06/14] x86: Add early SHA support for Secure Launch early measurements
Date: Fri, 12 May 2023 12:28:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230512112847.GF14461@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMj1kXE8m5jCH3vW54ys=dE2-Vf_gnnueR6_g4Rq-LSJ5BqRjA@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, May 12, 2023 at 01:18:45PM +0200, Ard Biesheuvel wrote:
> On Fri, 12 May 2023 at 13:04, Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, May 09, 2023 at 06:21:44PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> >
> > > SHA-1 is insecure.  Why are you still using SHA-1?  Don't TPMs support SHA-2
> > > now?
> >
> > TXT is supported on some TPM 1.2 systems as well. TPM 2 systems are also
> > at the whim of the firmware in terms of whether the SHA-2 banks are
> > enabled. But even if the SHA-2 banks are enabled, if you suddenly stop
> > extending the SHA-1 banks, a malicious actor can later turn up and
> > extend whatever they want into them and present a SHA-1-only
> > attestation. Ideally whatever is handling that attestation should know
> > whether or not to expect an attestation with SHA-2, but the easiest way
> > to maintain security is to always extend all banks.
> >
> 
> Wouldn't it make more sense to measure some terminating event into the
> SHA-1 banks instead?

Unless we assert that SHA-1 events are unsupported, it seems a bit odd 
to force a policy on people who have both banks enabled. People with 
mixed fleets are potentially going to be dealing with SHA-1 measurements 
for a while yet, and while there's obviously a security benefit in using 
SHA-2 instead it'd be irritating to have to maintain two attestation 
policies.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-12 11:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 100+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-04 14:50 [PATCH v6 00/14] x86: Trenchboot secure dynamic launch Linux kernel support Ross Philipson
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 01/14] x86/boot: Place kernel_info at a fixed offset Ross Philipson
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 02/14] Documentation/x86: Secure Launch kernel documentation Ross Philipson
2023-05-05 16:19   ` Simon Horman
2023-05-05 17:32     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-06  8:48   ` Bagas Sanjaya
2023-05-10 15:41     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-12 10:47   ` Matthew Garrett
2023-06-16 16:44     ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-06-16 16:54       ` Matthew Garrett
2023-06-16 18:21         ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-05-12 13:19   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 03/14] x86: Secure Launch Kconfig Ross Philipson
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 04/14] x86: Secure Launch Resource Table header file Ross Philipson
2023-05-05 16:22   ` Simon Horman
2023-05-05 17:34     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-10 23:04   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-05-15 20:58     ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-05-12 10:55   ` Matthew Garrett
2023-05-15 21:15     ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-05-15 21:22       ` Matthew Garrett
2023-05-16  0:41         ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-05-16  1:43           ` Matthew Garrett
2023-06-16 20:01             ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-06-16 20:15               ` Matthew Garrett
2023-07-07 19:31                 ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 05/14] x86: Secure Launch main " Ross Philipson
2023-05-05 16:25   ` Simon Horman
2023-05-05 17:37     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-12 11:00   ` Matthew Garrett
2023-05-12 16:10     ` Ross Philipson
2023-10-31 21:37       ` ross.philipson
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 06/14] x86: Add early SHA support for Secure Launch early measurements Ross Philipson
2023-05-05 16:34   ` Simon Horman
2023-05-09 16:09     ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-05-10  1:21   ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-10 22:28     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-05-12 11:04     ` Matthew Garrett
2023-05-12 11:18       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-12 11:28         ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2023-05-12 11:58           ` Ard Biesheuvel
2023-05-12 12:24             ` Andrew Cooper
2023-05-14 18:18               ` Eric Biggers
2023-05-14 19:11                 ` Matthew Garrett
2023-05-12 13:24           ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-12 16:13             ` Matthew Garrett
2023-05-12 18:17               ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-12 19:12                 ` Matthew Garrett
2023-05-12 19:42                   ` Andrew Cooper
2023-05-15 21:23     ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-05-11  3:33   ` Herbert Xu
2023-05-16  0:50     ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 07/14] x86: Secure Launch kernel early boot stub Ross Philipson
2023-05-05 17:47   ` Simon Horman
2023-05-05 18:58     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-05 19:46       ` Simon Horman
2023-05-12 11:26   ` Matthew Garrett
2023-05-12 16:17     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-12 16:27       ` Matthew Garrett
2023-05-16  1:11       ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-05-16  1:45         ` Matthew Garrett
2023-06-15 18:00           ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-12 18:04   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 20:13     ` Ross Philipson
2023-09-20 21:40     ` ross.philipson
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 08/14] x86: Secure Launch kernel late " Ross Philipson
2023-05-05 17:52   ` Simon Horman
2023-05-05 18:59     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-10 23:02   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-05-12 15:58     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-24  2:55       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-05-12 15:44   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 20:06     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 09/14] x86: Secure Launch SMP bringup support Ross Philipson
2023-05-05 17:54   ` Simon Horman
2023-05-05 18:59     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-10 22:55   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-05-11 16:21     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-12 18:02   ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-05-15 20:19     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 10/14] kexec: Secure Launch kexec SEXIT support Ross Philipson
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 11/14] reboot: Secure Launch SEXIT support on reboot paths Ross Philipson
2023-05-12 11:40   ` Matthew Garrett
2023-05-15 18:16     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-16  1:23       ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 12/14] x86: Secure Launch late initcall platform module Ross Philipson
2023-05-05 19:42   ` Simon Horman
2023-05-08 15:07     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-10 22:39   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-05-12 15:53     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-10 22:40   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2023-05-12 15:54     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 13/14] tpm: Allow locality 2 to be set when initializing the TPM for Secure Launch Ross Philipson
2023-05-12 11:43   ` Matthew Garrett
2023-05-12 16:22     ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-16  1:37       ` Daniel P. Smith
2023-05-04 14:50 ` [PATCH v6 14/14] x86: EFI stub DRTM launch support " Ross Philipson
2023-05-05  8:39 ` [PATCH v6 00/14] x86: Trenchboot secure dynamic launch Linux kernel support Bagas Sanjaya
2023-05-05 15:45   ` Ross Philipson
2023-05-06  7:56     ` Bagas Sanjaya

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