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From: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>
To: NeilBrown <neil@brown.name>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trondmy@kernel.org>,
	Anna Schumaker <anna@kernel.org>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>, Jeremy Kerr <jk@ozlabs.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org, linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 04/19] VFS: use wait_var_event for waiting in d_alloc_parallel()
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2026 15:22:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260428142225.GX3518998@ZenIV> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <177737511992.1474915.1952404144121931523@noble.neil.brown.name>

On Tue, Apr 28, 2026 at 09:18:39PM +1000, NeilBrown wrote:
> > d_must_wait() conditional, though - ->d_flags and ->d_lock are in different
> > cachelines and there's no need to dirty both every time we are called.
> > IOW, have d_must_wait() do this:
> > 	if (!d_in_lookup(dentry))
> > 		return false;
> > 	if (!(dentry->d_flags & DCACHE_LOCK_WAITER))
> > 		dentry->d_flags |= DCACHE_LOCK_WAITER;
> > 	return true;
> 
> The only time that DCACHE_LOCK_WAITER will already be set is when there
> are two (or more) waiters as well as the thread they are waiting on.
> That means three (or more) threads all accessing the same name at the
> same time.  How often does that happen?  Is the micro-optimisation worth
> the small increase in code size?

Depends upon the load, obviously - a bunch of threads hitting the same
pathname at the same time... not impossible.

More to the point, why not set DCACHE_LOCK_WAITER as soon as we grab ->d_lock
there?  Then waiting becomes simply "wait until !d_in_lookup()".  Sure, we
might end up setting DCACHE_LOCK_WAITER on a dentry that has just dropped
DCACHE_PAR_LOOKUP - who cares?

While we are at it, do we need to drop it when we clear PAR_LOOKUP?  Because
if we do not, the whole "what do we return from __d_lookup_unhash()" thing
disappears - we simply pass the dentry to end_dir_add() and have it check
->d_flags & DCACHE_LOCK_WAITER to decide whether to bother with wakeup.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-28 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-27  4:01 [PATCH v3 00/19] Prepare to lift lookup out of exclusive lock for directory ops NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 01/19] VFS: fix various typos in documentation for start_creating start_removing etc NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 02/19] VFS: enhance d_splice_alias() to handle in-lookup dentries NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 03/19] VFS: allow d_alloc_name() to be used with ->d_hash NeilBrown
2026-04-28  2:10   ` Al Viro
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 04/19] VFS: use wait_var_event for waiting in d_alloc_parallel() NeilBrown
2026-04-28  3:37   ` Al Viro
2026-04-28 11:18     ` NeilBrown
2026-04-28 14:22       ` Al Viro [this message]
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 05/19] VFS: introduce d_alloc_noblock() NeilBrown
2026-04-28  2:22   ` Al Viro
2026-04-28 11:24     ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 06/19] VFS: add d_duplicate() NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 07/19] VFS: Add LOOKUP_SHARED flag NeilBrown
2026-04-27  7:43   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-27  8:47     ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27  9:05       ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-27 23:51         ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 08/19] VFS/xfs/ntfs: drop parent lock across d_alloc_parallel() in d_add_ci() NeilBrown
2026-04-27  7:49   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-27  8:48     ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 09/19] ovl: stop using lookup_one() in iterate_shared() handling NeilBrown
2026-04-27 10:10   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-28  0:24     ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 10/19] VFS/ovl: add d_alloc_noblock_return() NeilBrown
2026-04-27  9:40   ` Amir Goldstein
2026-04-28  0:34     ` NeilBrown
2026-04-28  4:35       ` Al Viro
2026-04-28 11:44         ` NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 11/19] efivarfs: use d_alloc_name() NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 12/19] shmem: use d_duplicate() NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 13/19] nfs: remove d_drop()/d_alloc_parallel() from nfs_atomic_open() NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 14/19] nfs: use d_splice_alias() in nfs_link() NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 15/19] nfs: don't d_drop() before d_splice_alias() NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 16/19] nfs: don't d_drop() before d_splice_alias() in atomic_create NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 17/19] nfs: Use d_alloc_noblock() in nfs_prime_dcache() NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 18/19] nfs: use d_alloc_noblock() in silly-rename NeilBrown
2026-04-27  4:01 ` [PATCH v3 19/19] nfs: use d_duplicate() NeilBrown
2026-04-27  8:42 ` [syzbot ci] Re: Prepare to lift lookup out of exclusive lock for directory ops syzbot ci

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