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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Second attempt at kernel secure boot support
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:12:27 +0100
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On 11/05/2012 07:14 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> In any case the notion that unattended install with no user interaction
> on any uefi machine in any state is complete and total rubbish.  It
> can't be done.  You need power and you need boot media.
> 

That is a hugely different thing from needing a console.

	-hpa