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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] Second attempt at kernel secure boot support
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 09:53:33 +0100
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On 11/05/2012 09:50 AM, Eric W. Biederman wrote:
> 
> Facts are always a good thing to assume.
> 
> The fact is the general case does not admit an install without user
> interaction.
> 

In the general case, no.  However, that is not a good reason to rule out
the cases where it *can* be done; especially as vendors are starting to
wake up to actual needs of users and of Linux in particular.

	-hpa