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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Matthew Garrett
	<matthew.garrett-05XSO3Yj/JvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Borislav Petkov <bp-Gina5bIWoIWzQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook-F7+t8E8rja9g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
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	<x86-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-security-module
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Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Lock down MSR writing in secure boot
Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 17:22:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5115A4CC.3080102@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1360366012.18083.21.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>

On 02/08/2013 03:26 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Sat, 2013-02-09 at 00:06 +0100, Borislav Petkov wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 02:30:52PM -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
>>> Also, keep in mind that there is a very simple way to deny MSR access
>>> completely, which is to not include the driver in your kernel (and not
>>> allow module loading, but if you can load modules you can just load a
>>> module to muck with whatever MSR you want.)
>>
>> I was contemplating that too. What is the use case of having
>> msr.ko in a secure boot environment? Isn't that an all-no-tools,
>> you-can't-do-sh*t-except-what-you're-explicitly-allowed-to environment which
>> simply doesn't need to write MSRs in the first place?
> 
> Well, sure, distributions could build every kernel twice. That seems a
> little excessive, though.
> 

You don't have to build the kernel twice to exclude a loadable module.

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-09  1:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-08 19:12 [PATCH] x86: Lock down MSR writing in secure boot Kees Cook
2013-02-08 19:17 ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]   ` <00780235-deac-4f80-b936-867834e05661-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-08 19:18     ` Kees Cook
2013-02-08 19:42       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-08 20:14         ` Kees Cook
     [not found]           ` <CAGXu5j+_mGzR+72YqORhErMUY1aF1H2urczZ8SwuJHZK-oZL6g-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-08 20:18             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-08 20:28               ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                 ` <CAGXu5jLAufTRm=sDST0br_WEkn4o0Hpjv2jDP2Na=cCvuM+MGg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-08 20:34                   ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-08 21:02                     ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                       ` <CAGXu5jKo2PfMBO4A0ZgQcrPuj8OHNaff+CjAesOAWkZc0vB9+Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-08 21:07                         ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                           ` <1360357636.18083.19.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-08 21:14                             ` Josh Boyer
2013-02-08 23:09                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2013-02-08 22:30                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-08 23:06                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-08 23:26                             ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                               ` <1360366012.18083.21.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-09  1:22                                 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-02-09  1:29                                   ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                     ` <1360373383.18083.23.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-09  6:45                                       ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                                         ` <CAGXu5j+xvJ3L5ejxtZ-Jw3F6rV7OsrE0_HZCGu_er0rH2_PwKA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-09  9:29                                           ` Borislav Petkov
2013-02-09 15:10                                             ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                                             ` <20130209092925.GA17728-fF5Pk5pvG8Y@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-09 15:11                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13  0:48                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13  5:39                                                   ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                     ` <1360733962.18083.30.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13  6:12                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13  6:27                                                         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13  6:33                                                           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                                             ` <511B33BC.9080307-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13  6:41                                                               ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                                 ` <1360737709.18083.36.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 17:20                                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 17:26                                                                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 17:51                                                                       ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found]                                                                         ` <511BD291.1040003-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 17:56                                                                           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 18:44                                                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 18:51                                                                               ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-13 22:26                                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 22:58                                                                           ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found]                                                                             ` <511C1A94.8020804-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-14  0:25                                                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-14  0:44                                                                                 ` Casey Schaufler
     [not found]                                                                                   ` <511C3389.5090604-iSGtlc1asvQWG2LlvL+J4A@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-14  1:04                                                                                     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                                                                                       ` <1360803872.18083.46.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-14  1:08                                                                                         ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <511C3927.90603-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-14  2:46                                                                                             ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-14  1:34                                                                                       ` Casey Schaufler
2013-02-13  8:27                                                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2013-02-13 17:21                                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                                               ` <511B4E61.1040604-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 17:22                                                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-13 19:55                                                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
     [not found]                                                                   ` <511B EFAD.1050206@redhat.com>
     [not found]                                                                     ` <511BEFAD.1050206-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-13 22:24                                                                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-02-08 19:17 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-02-08 19:21   ` Kees Cook
     [not found]     ` <CAGXu5j+aXxQb_Jyn6G+JUdjNOF2EGo9pTw8dBYuZUTb+S1vWow-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-02-08 19:27       ` Matthew Garrett

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