From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86: Lock down MSR writing in secure boot Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:12:09 -0800 Message-ID: <511B2EB9.5070406@zytor.com> References: <1360355671.18083.18.camel@x230.lan> <51157C9C.6030501@zytor.com> <20130208230655.GB28990@pd.tnic> <1360366012.18083.21.camel@x230.lan> <5115A4CC.3080102@zytor.com> <1360373383.18083.23.camel@x230.lan> <20130209092925.GA17728@pd.tnic> <1360422712.18083.24.camel@x230.lan> <511AE2CC.5040705@zytor.com> <1360733962.18083.30.camel@x230.lan> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <1360733962.18083.30.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org> Sender: linux-efi-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org To: Matthew Garrett Cc: Borislav Petkov , Kees Cook , LKML , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , "x86-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org" , "linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" , linux-security-module List-Id: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org On 02/12/2013 09:39 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote: > On Tue, 2013-02-12 at 16:48 -0800, H. Peter Anvin wrote: > >> OK... what none of this gets into: >> >> Why should CAP_RAWIO be allowed on a secure boot system, when there are >> 2^n known ways of compromise a system with CAP_RAWIO? > > CAP_SYS_RAWIO seems to have ended up being a catchall of "Maybe someone > who isn't entirely root should be able to do this", and not everything > it covers is equivalent to being able to compromise the running kernel. > I wouldn't argue with the idea that maybe we should just reappraise most > of the current uses of CAP_SYS_RAWIO, but removing capability checks > from places that currently have them seems like an invitation for > userspace breakage. > Sounds like you are thinking of CAP_SYS_ADMIN, but I don't really see a huge difference between MSRs and I/O control registers... just different address spaces. -hpa -- H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf.