From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: "H. Peter Anvin" Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2013 16:58:07 -0700 Message-ID: <522FB20F.4020609@zytor.com> References: <1378767723.17982.27.camel@x230.lan> <1378774394.17982.36.camel@x230.lan> <1378781715.17982.42.camel@x230.lan> <1378785208.17982.54.camel@x230.lan> <20130910172318.GB21530@khazad-dum.debian.net> <1378837571.17615.0.camel@x230.lan> <522F6519.4030004@zytor.com> <20130910185149.GC5559@kroah.com> <522F768F.1000101@zytor.com> <1378856601.2257.208.camel@dhcp-9-2-203-236.watson.ibm.com> <522FAFC4.5090503@zytor.com> <1378857327.2257.214.camel@dhcp-9-2-203-236.watson.ibm.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: In-Reply-To: <1378857327.2257.214.camel-ofEJDTH4t7tcpOBKWxGlqK+Pbu69ru6nqyM6JfAXOaQ@public.gmane.org> Sender: linux-efi-owner-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org To: Mimi Zohar Cc: David Lang , Kees Cook , "gregkh-hQyY1W1yCW8ekmWlsbkhG0B+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org" , Matthew Garrett , Henrique de Moraes Holschuh , "Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ@public.gmane.org" , "linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" , "linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" , "jmorris-gx6/JNMH7DfYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org" , "linux-security-module-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org" , Elena Reshetova List-Id: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org On 09/10/2013 04:55 PM, Mimi Zohar wrote: >> >> What would the deliverables be from the hardware vendor and what tools >> would you expect them to need on their end? > > The package installer needs to not only install files, but file metadata > as well. Elena Reshetova (Intel) has already added rpm hooks to write > security xattrs. The next step, yet to be done, is to include and write > the signatures as part of the rpm install process. > That's a total non-option. There needs to be something that can be done even on a Windows box by a largely untrained release engineer if we're going to have a prayer of getting this supported. So, there is your answer why not. -hpa