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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	jerry.hoemann@hp.com, Pekka Enberg <penberg@kernel.org>,
	Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Matt Fleming <matt.fleming@intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"list@ebiederm.org:DOCUMENTATION" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"list@ebiederm.org:MEMORY MANAGEMENT" <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Early use of boot service memory
Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 09:40:49 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <52865CA1.5020309@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAE9FiQUnw9Ujmdtq-AgC4VctQ=fZSBkzehoTbvw=aZeARL+pwA@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/15/2013 09:33 AM, Yinghai Lu wrote:
> 
> If the system support intel IOMMU, we only need to that 72M for SWIOTLB
> or AMD workaround.
> If the user really care that for intel iommu enable system, they could use
> "crashkernel=0,low" to have that 72M back.
> 
> and that 72M is under 4G instead of 896M.
> 
> so reserve 72M is not better than reserve 128M?
> 

Those 72M are in addition to 128M, which does add up quite a bit.
However, the presence of a working IOMMU in the system is something that
should be possible to know at setup time.

Now, this was discussed partly in the context of VMs.  I want to say, as
I have again and again: the right way to dump a VM is with hypervisor
assistance rather than an in-image dumper which is both expensive and
may be corrupted by the failure.

It would be good if the various VMs with interest in Linux would agree
on a mechanism for launching a dumper.  This can be done either inband
(on the execution of a specific hypercall, the hypervisor terminates I/O
to the guest, inserts a dumper into the address space and launches it)
or out-of-band (the hypervisor itself, or an assistant program, writes a
dump file) or as a hybrid (a new dump guest is launched with the
hypervisor-written or hypervisor-preserved crashed guest image somehow
passed to it.)

	-hpa

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-11-15 17:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-11-12  2:15 [PATCH 0/3] Early use of boot service memory Jerry Hoemann
     [not found] ` <1384222558-38527-1-git-send-email-jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12  2:15   ` [PATCH 1/3] efi: " Jerry Hoemann
2013-11-12  2:15   ` [PATCH 3/3] x86, " Jerry Hoemann
2013-11-12 18:58   ` [PATCH 0/3] " H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]     ` <d73ccce9-6a0d-4470-bda3-f0c6eb96b5e4-2ueSQiBKiTY7tOexoI0I+QC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 22:45       ` jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY
     [not found]         ` <20131113224503.GB25344-dMAi7lA+vBPDUbYHzcRnttBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 22:49           ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]             ` <52840206.5020006-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-13 23:57               ` jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY
2013-11-14  0:05                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-14  1:40                   ` jerry.hoemann
     [not found]                   ` <528413DE.1090203-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-01  9:54                     ` Yuhong Bao
     [not found]                 ` <20131113235708.GC25344-dMAi7lA+vBPDUbYHzcRnttBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-14  8:24                   ` Pekka Enberg
2013-11-14 18:04                     ` jerry.hoemann
     [not found]                       ` <20131114180455.GA32212-dMAi7lA+vBPDUbYHzcRnttBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-14 18:44                         ` Pekka Enberg
2013-11-14 18:45                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-15  0:50                           ` jerry.hoemann
     [not found]                             ` <20131115005049.GJ5116-dMAi7lA+vBPDUbYHzcRnttBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15  6:24                               ` Ingo Molnar
2013-11-15  6:55                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-15  6:59                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-15 14:07                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-15 17:33                                       ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-15 17:40                                         ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2013-11-15 18:30                                           ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-15 18:46                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-15 19:16                                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-18 15:22                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-18 18:29                                                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-11-18 18:52                                                     ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-19  1:32                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                               ` <528ABFA3.6060905-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-19  3:02                                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-15 18:03                                         ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-15 22:24                                           ` Yinghai Lu
     [not found]                                             ` <CAE9FiQU_OstEq3VWwBB879O4EY0DE+zVWVens+w0MLFUQmr3sw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-15 22:55                                               ` jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY
2013-11-15 23:43                                                 ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-18 15:32                                             ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-18 19:34                                               ` Yinghai Lu
2013-11-18 19:39                                                 ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-15 18:16                                     ` jerry.hoemann
2013-11-15 19:13                                 ` jerry.hoemann
2013-11-18 15:42                                   ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-15  8:36                               ` Pekka Enberg
2013-11-14 15:26               ` Vivek Goyal
2013-11-12  2:15 ` [PATCH 2/3] x86: avoid efi_reserve_boot_services Jerry Hoemann
2013-11-12 10:37 ` [PATCH 0/3] Early use of boot service memory Pekka Enberg
2013-11-12 17:55   ` jerry.hoemann
2013-11-12 18:48     ` Pekka Enberg
     [not found]       ` <CAOJsxLEU1SPd=1C8QPgrZGWeOuyOVkozuMR014xBpJTxyFviKA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-11-12 21:52         ` jerry.hoemann-VXdhtT5mjnY

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