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From: "Zhang, Jonathan Zhixiong" <zjzhang-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Fleming
	<matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-efi-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Matt Fleming
	<matt.fleming-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp-l3A5Bk7waGM@public.gmane.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel
	<ard.biesheuvel-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] acpi, apei: use appropriate pgprot_t to map GHES memory
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2015 12:09:15 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55CE3CDB.7020303@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150813111422.GE10280-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>



On 8/13/2015 4:14 AM, Will Deacon wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 13, 2015 at 10:24:32AM +0100, Matt Fleming wrote:
>> On Thu, 13 Aug, at 10:19:17AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>>> * Matt Fleming <matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> From: "Jonathan (Zhixiong) Zhang" <zjzhang-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
>>>>
>>>> With ACPI APEI firmware first handling, generic hardware error
>>>> record is updated by firmware in GHES memory region. On an arm64
>>>> platform, firmware updates GHES memory region with uncached
>>>> access attribute, and then Linux reads stale data from cache.
>>>
>>> So this paragraph does not parse for me ...
I will update the paragraph to explain that with current code,
PAGE_KERNEL is always used, this means that the kernel assumes
cache coherency to the memory region is maintained by firmware;
such assumption is not always correct.
>>>
>>> If it tries to explain a bug it falls very short of doing a proper job of that.
>>
>> I'll let Jonathan provide more details but I understood the problem to
>> be a cache (in)coherency issue.
>>
>> The kernel currently maps the the GHES memory region as cacheable
>> (PAGE_KERNEL) for all architectures. This memory region is used as a
>> communication buffer for reporting hardware errors from the firmware to
>> kernel. Essentially the firmware writes hardware error records there,
>> trigger an NMI/interrupt, and the GHES driver goes off and grabs the
>> error record from the GHES region.
>>
>> Since the firmware gets first crack at inspecting the error this
>> mechanism is referred to as "firmware first" in the ACPI spec.
>>
>> Now, there's a mismatch on arm64 platforms between how the kernel maps
>> the GHES region (PAGE_KERNEL) and how the firmware maps it
>> (EFI_MEMORY_UC, i.e. uncacheable), leading to the possibility of the
>> kernel GHES driver reading stale data from the cache when it receives
>> the NMI/interrupt.
>>
>> As for exactly why the arm64 firmware uses an uncached mapping, I
>> presume it's to avoid relying on the kernel to get the necessary cache
>> flushing correct.
>>
>> The proposed solution is to query the EFI memory map to ensure the
>> kernel uses a compatible mapping.
>>
>> None of this should affect x86, it still uses PAGE_KERNEL because we're
>> yet to see any hardware that has an EFI memory map entry for the GHES
>> region that's incompatible with PAGE_KERNEL.
>>
>> Jonathan, would you like to provide more details?
Not really. Matt and Will articulated it to the points.
>
> FWIW, that matches my understanding of the problem too. The ARM architecture
> refers to this situation as "mismatched memory attributes" and typically
> requires some explicit cache maintenance to achieve portable behaviour in
> this scenario.
>
> It's much better to avoid the mismatch in the first place, if you can,
> which is what this is all about.
>
> Will
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Jonathan (Zhixiong) Zhang
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum,
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-14 19:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-12 16:17 [GIT PULL 0/2] EFI changes for v4.3 (part two) Matt Fleming
2015-08-12 16:17 ` [PATCH 1/2] arm64: apei: implement arch_apei_get_mem_attributes() Matt Fleming
2015-08-13  8:22   ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]     ` <20150813082207.GB14610-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-14 18:55       ` Zhang, Jonathan Zhixiong
2015-08-14 19:12         ` Matt Fleming
2015-08-12 16:17 ` [PATCH 2/2] acpi, apei: use appropriate pgprot_t to map GHES memory Matt Fleming
     [not found]   ` <1439396234-22863-3-git-send-email-matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-13  8:19     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]       ` <20150813081917.GA14610-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-13  9:24         ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]           ` <20150813092432.GA2797-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-13 11:14             ` Will Deacon
     [not found]               ` <20150813111422.GE10280-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-14 19:09                 ` Zhang, Jonathan Zhixiong [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-08-14 22:37 [PATCH V2 1/2] arm64: apei: implement arch_apei_get_mem_attributes() Jonathan (Zhixiong) Zhang
2015-08-14 22:37 ` [PATCH 2/2] acpi, apei: use appropriate pgprot_t to map GHES memory Jonathan (Zhixiong) Zhang
     [not found]   ` <1439591850-29002-2-git-send-email-zjzhang-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-17 13:13     ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]       ` <20150817131357.GB3233-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-17 21:10         ` Zhang, Jonathan Zhixiong
2015-08-22  9:24     ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]       ` <20150822092429.GB18233-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-24 18:22         ` Zhang, Jonathan Zhixiong
     [not found]           ` <55DB60FA.8050406-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-25  8:59             ` Ingo Molnar
     [not found]               ` <20150825085923.GA22414-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-25 17:30                 ` Zhang, Jonathan Zhixiong
2015-08-24 18:25 Jonathan (Zhixiong) Zhang
2015-08-25 17:27 Jonathan (Zhixiong) Zhang
     [not found] ` <1440523642-31373-1-git-send-email-zjzhang-sgV2jX0FEOL9JmXXK+q4OQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-04 11:28   ` Matt Fleming
     [not found]     ` <20150904112820.GB2737-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-04 11:36       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-09-04 13:11 [GIT PULL 0/2] EFI changes for v4.3 (part two) Matt Fleming
     [not found] ` <1441372302-23242-1-git-send-email-matt-mF/unelCI9GS6iBeEJttW/XRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2015-09-04 13:11   ` [PATCH 2/2] acpi, apei: Use appropriate pgprot_t to map GHES memory Matt Fleming

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