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From: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu>,
	David Lang <david@lang.hm>,
	Matthew Garrett <matthew.garrett@nebula.com>,
	"Linux-Kernel@Vger. Kernel. Org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"linux-efi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-efi@vger.kernel.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	linux-security-module <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown
Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2013 15:58:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+5PVA70Lw2f_4K6ys_xTyodo2VBWD+cOvTYHxWmqyQEX8784A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <522E27DF.8020409@zytor.com>

On Mon, Sep 9, 2013 at 3:56 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I.e. capabilities ;)
>>
>> Circles.  All I see here are circles.
>>
>> Having lived an entire release with a capabilities based mechanism for
>> this in Fedora, please no.
>>
>> And if you are talking about non-POSIX capabilities as you mentioned
>> earlier, that seems to be no different than having securelevel being a
>> bitmask of, well, levels.  I don't have much opinion on securelevel
>> being a big hammer or a bitmask of finer grained things, but I do
>> think it's a more manageable way forward.  Calling the implementation
>> "capabilities" seems to just be unnecessarily confusing.
>>
>
> This is the term "capability" in the general sense, not the POSIX
> implementation thereof.

See the whole last paragraph.  Particularly the last sentence.

josh

  reply	other threads:[~2013-09-09 19:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-09-09 15:49 [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 01/12] Add BSD-style securelevel support Matthew Garrett
     [not found]   ` <1378741786-18430-2-git-send-email-matthew.garrett-05XSO3Yj/JvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 16:27     ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]       ` <522DF6DC.1050303-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 16:30         ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]           ` <1378744207.17982.3.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 16:42             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-09 16:44               ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                 ` <1378745082.17982.4.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 16:51                   ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                     ` <522DFCAC.40607-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 16:55                       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 18:31       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 02/12] Enforce module signatures when securelevel is greater than 0 Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 03/12] PCI: Lock down BAR access when securelevel is enabled Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 04/12] x86: Lock down IO port " Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 05/12] Restrict /dev/mem and /dev/kmem when securelevel is set Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 06/12] acpi: Limit access to custom_method if " Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 07/12] acpi: Ignore acpi_rsdp kernel parameter when " Matthew Garrett
2013-11-26 12:54   ` Josh Boyer
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 08/12] kexec: Disable at runtime if securelevel has been set Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 09/12] uswsusp: Disable when securelevel is set Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 10/12] x86: Restrict MSR access " Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 11/12] asus-wmi: Restrict debugfs interface " Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 15:49 ` [PATCH 12/12] Add option to automatically set securelevel when in Secure Boot mode Matthew Garrett
     [not found] ` <1378741786-18430-1-git-send-email-matthew.garrett-05XSO3Yj/JvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 17:18   ` [PATCH 00/12] One more attempt at useful kernel lockdown Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
     [not found]     ` <19562.1378747124-+bZmOdGhbsPr6rcHtW+onFJE71vCis6O@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 17:24       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 18:25     ` David Lang
2013-09-09 18:28       ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]         ` <1378751318.17982.10.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 18:40           ` David Lang
2013-09-09 18:42             ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]               ` <1378752158.17982.15.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 18:53                 ` David Lang
     [not found]                   ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1309091150570.2479-UEhY+ZBZOcqqLGM74eQ/YA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 19:06                     ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 19:59                       ` David Lang
2013-09-09 20:06                         ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 20:15                           ` David Lang
2013-09-09 20:17                             ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]       ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1309091119330.2479-UEhY+ZBZOcqqLGM74eQ/YA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 19:01         ` Valdis.Kletnieks-PjAqaU27lzQ
2013-09-09 19:08           ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]           ` <27562.1378753264-+bZmOdGhbsPr6rcHtW+onFJE71vCis6O@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 19:41             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-09 19:52               ` Josh Boyer
2013-09-09 19:56                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-09 19:58                   ` Josh Boyer [this message]
2013-09-09 20:02                     ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                 ` <CA+5PVA4mu=ykBMgWYaEagCsDexR-qFYH0tfjK+4B+xOCPonNXg-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 20:10                   ` David Lang
     [not found]                     ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1309091300420.2479-UEhY+ZBZOcqqLGM74eQ/YA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 20:13                       ` Josh Boyer
2013-09-09 23:02       ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-09 23:19         ` David Lang
     [not found]           ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1309091614010.2479-UEhY+ZBZOcqqLGM74eQ/YA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 23:20             ` Kees Cook
     [not found]               ` <CAGXu5jJdMXP84TPP-=dtExFkpcGKPGLWnOu1-PZMokz5WhCLwQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-09 23:30                 ` James Bottomley
2013-09-09 23:34                   ` Kees Cook
2013-09-10  0:53           ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-10  2:44             ` David Lang
     [not found]               ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1309091938420.1820-UEhY+ZBZOcqqLGM74eQ/YA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-10  2:55                 ` Matthew Garrett
2013-09-10  3:09                   ` David Lang
2013-09-10  3:53                     ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                       ` <1378785208.17982.54.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-10 17:23                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
     [not found]                           ` <20130910172318.GB21530-ZGHd14iZgfaRjzvQDGKj+xxZW9W5cXbT@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-10 18:26                             ` Matthew Garrett
     [not found]                               ` <1378837571.17615.0.camel-+5W/JHIUVxg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-10 18:29                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-10 18:51                                   ` gregkh
2013-09-10 18:55                                     ` Kees Cook
     [not found]                                       ` <CAGXu5j+3oKC-tQe8z43bG8wTpURD4FFCi+A1t9mSN_Bfzh8e8Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-10 19:17                                         ` David Lang
     [not found]                                           ` <alpine.DEB.2.02.1309101217150.10412-UEhY+ZBZOcqqLGM74eQ/YA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-10 19:44                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                               ` <522F768F.1000101-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-10 23:43                                                 ` Mimi Zohar
     [not found]                                                   ` <1378856601.2257.208.camel-ofEJDTH4t7tcpOBKWxGlqK+Pbu69ru6nqyM6JfAXOaQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-10 23:48                                                     ` H. Peter Anvin
     [not found]                                                       ` <522FAFC4.5090503-YMNOUZJC4hwAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-10 23:55                                                         ` Mimi Zohar
     [not found]                                                           ` <1378857327.2257.214.camel-ofEJDTH4t7tcpOBKWxGlqK+Pbu69ru6nqyM6JfAXOaQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-10 23:58                                                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2013-09-10 18:48                                 ` Kees Cook
2013-09-11  9:32                                 ` joeyli
2013-09-09 20:30 ` Mimi Zohar

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