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From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	x86@kernel.org, kys@microsoft.com,  haiyangz@microsoft.com,
	wei.liu@kernel.org, decui@microsoft.com,  tglx@linutronix.de,
	mingo@redhat.com, bp@alien8.de,  dave.hansen@linux.intel.com,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, ardb@kernel.org,  kees@kernel.org,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,  jpoimboe@kernel.org,
	linux-hyperv@vger.kernel.org,  linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	 samitolvanen@google.com, ojeda@kernel.org, xin@zytor.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/13] objtool: Detect and warn about indirect calls in __nocfi functions
Date: Thu, 1 May 2025 11:59:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aBPEr3DF4w9sbUdc@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <EB1786D7-C7FE-4517-A207-C5F63AC0F911@zytor.com>

On Thu, May 01, 2025, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> On May 1, 2025 11:30:18 AM PDT, Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com> wrote:
> >On Thu, May 01, 2025, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >> On Thu, May 01, 2025 at 12:30:38PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >> > On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 09:06:00PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >> > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2025 at 07:24:15AM -0700, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> >> > > 
> >> > > > >KVM has another; the VMX interrupt injection stuff calls the IDT handler
> >> > > > >directly.  Is there an alternative? Can we keep a table of Linux functions
> >> > > > >slighly higher up the call stack (asm_\cfunc ?) and add CFI to those?
> >> > > 
> >> > > > We do have a table of handlers higher up in the stack in the form of
> >> > > > the dispatch tables for FRED. They don't in general even need the
> >> > > > assembly entry stubs, either.
> >> > > 
> >> > > Oh, right. I'll go have a look at those.
> >> > 
> >> > Right, so perhaps the easiest way around this is to setup the FRED entry
> >> > tables unconditionally, have VMX mandate CONFIG_FRED and then have it
> >> > always use the FRED entry points.
> >> > 
> >> > Let me see how ugly that gets.
> >> 
> >> Something like so... except this is broken. Its reporting spurious
> >> interrupts on vector 0x00, so something is buggered passing that vector
> >> along.
> >
> >Uh, aren't you making this way more complex than it needs to be?  IIUC, KVM never
> >uses the FRED hardware entry points, i.e. the FRED entry tables don't need to be
> >in place because they'll never be used.  The only bits of code KVM needs is the
> >__fred_entry_from_kvm() glue.
> >
> >Lightly tested, but this combo works for IRQs and NMIs on non-FRED hardware.

Hrm, and now I see that fred_extint() relies on fred_install_sysvec(), which makes
me quite curious as to why IRQs didn't go sideways.  Oh, because sysvec_table[]
is statically defined at compile time except for PV crud.

So yeah, I think my the patches are correct, they just the need a small bit of
prep work to support dynamic setup of sysvec_table.

> >--
> >From 664468143109ab7c525c0babeba62195fa4c657e Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> >From: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> >Date: Thu, 1 May 2025 11:20:29 -0700
> >Subject: [PATCH 1/2] x86/fred: Play nice with invoking
> > asm_fred_entry_from_kvm() on non-FRED hardware
> >
> >Modify asm_fred_entry_from_kvm() to allow it to be invoked by KVM even
> >when FRED isn't fully enabled, e.g. when running with CONFIG_X86_FRED=y
> >on non-FRED hardware.  This will allow forcing KVM to always use the FRED
> >entry points for 64-bit kernels, which in turn will eliminate a rather
> >gross non-CFI indirect call that KVM uses to trampoline IRQs by doing IDT
> >lookups.
> >
> >When FRED isn't enabled, simply skip ERETS and restore RBP and RSP from
> >the stack frame prior to doing a "regular" RET back to KVM (in quotes
> >because of all the RET mitigation horrors).
> >
> >Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
> >---
> > arch/x86/entry/entry_64_fred.S | 5 +++--
> > 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
> >
> >diff --git a/arch/x86/entry/entry_64_fred.S b/arch/x86/entry/entry_64_fred.S
> >index 29c5c32c16c3..7aff2f0a285f 100644
> >--- a/arch/x86/entry/entry_64_fred.S
> >+++ b/arch/x86/entry/entry_64_fred.S
> >@@ -116,7 +116,8 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(asm_fred_entry_from_kvm)
> > 	movq %rsp, %rdi				/* %rdi -> pt_regs */
> > 	call __fred_entry_from_kvm		/* Call the C entry point */
> > 	POP_REGS
> >-	ERETS
> >+
> >+	ALTERNATIVE "", __stringify(ERETS), X86_FEATURE_FRED
> > 1:
> > 	/*
> > 	 * Objtool doesn't understand what ERETS does, this hint tells it that
> >@@ -124,7 +125,7 @@ SYM_FUNC_START(asm_fred_entry_from_kvm)
> > 	 * isn't strictly needed, but it's the simplest form.
> > 	 */
> > 	UNWIND_HINT_RESTORE
> >-	pop %rbp
> >+	leave
> > 	RET
> > 
> > SYM_FUNC_END(asm_fred_entry_from_kvm)
> >
> >base-commit: 45eb29140e68ffe8e93a5471006858a018480a45
> 
> Ok maybe I'm being dense, but what is left other than simply calling
> __fred_entry_from_kvm() as a normal C function? 
> 
> I'm on the go so there might be something in the code I'm missing, but on the
> surface...?

I'm sure it's doable, though I'd be more than a little nervous about diverging
from what FRED=y does, e.g. in case code somewhere expects the stack to look
exactly like a real FRED event.

And since we'd still need the assembly to support FRED=y, I don't see any point
in adding more code when it's trivially easy to have asm_fred_entry_from_kvm()
skip ERETS.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-01 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-04-30 11:07 [PATCH v2 00/13] objtool: Detect and warn about indirect calls in __nocfi functions Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] x86/kvm/emulate: Implement test_cc() in C Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] x86/kvm/emulate: Introduce COP1 Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 16:19   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-04-30 19:05     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] x86/kvm/emulate: Introduce COP2 Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] x86/kvm/emulate: Introduce COP2R Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] x86/kvm/emulate: Introduce COP2W Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] x86/kvm/emulate: Introduce COP2CL Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] x86/kvm/emulate: Introduce COP1SRC2 Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] x86/kvm/emulate: Introduce COP3WCL Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] x86/kvm/emulate: Convert em_salc() to C Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] x86/kvm/emulate: Remove fastops Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] x86,hyperv: Clean up hv_do_hypercall() Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-01  2:36   ` Michael Kelley
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] x86_64,hyperv: Use direct call to hypercall-page Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-01  2:36   ` Michael Kelley
2025-05-01  8:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 11:07 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] objtool: Validate kCFI calls Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 15:59   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-04-30 19:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-01 15:56       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-04-30 14:24 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] objtool: Detect and warn about indirect calls in __nocfi functions H. Peter Anvin
2025-04-30 19:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-01 10:30     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-01 15:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-01 18:30         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-01 18:42           ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-05-01 18:59             ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2025-05-02  6:12               ` Xin Li
2025-05-02  5:46           ` Xin Li
2025-05-02  5:48           ` Xin Li
2025-05-02 19:43             ` H. Peter Anvin
2025-05-02  8:40           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-02 19:53             ` Sean Christopherson
2025-05-03  9:50               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-03 18:28                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-05-06  7:31                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-06 13:32                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-06 19:18                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-05-28  7:44                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-28 16:30                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-28 16:35                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-29  9:30                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-03  5:43                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-06-03 16:29                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-06-05 17:19                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2025-06-06 10:49                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-06-06 13:15                                         ` Sean Christopherson
2025-06-06 13:20                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-01 18:33 ` Paolo Bonzini
2025-05-02 11:08   ` Peter Zijlstra

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