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From: Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>
To: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Bjorn Andersson <andersson@kernel.org>,
	Maximilian Luz <luzmaximilian@gmail.com>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>,
	Steev Klimaszewski <steev@kali.org>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>,
	Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 6/8] firmware: qcom: scm: add modparam to control QSEECOM enablement
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2025 14:58:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <aF1EDMsw1KQTlteX@hovoldconsulting.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <gqoba4uu62sh4qxapqkhlufxnliatevnsqcxvijvb74tposf2b@iyonh347aext>

On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 02:08:23PM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2025 at 12:11:20PM +0200, Johan Hovold wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 25, 2025 at 01:53:25AM +0300, Dmitry Baryshkov wrote:
> > > From: Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@linaro.org>
> > > 
> > > In preparation to enabling QSEECOM for the platforms rather than
> > > individual machines provide a mechanism for the user to override default
> > > selection. Allow users to use qcom_scm.qseecom modparam.
> > > 
> > > Setting it to 'force' will enable QSEECOM even if it disabled or not
> > > handled by the allowlist.
> > > 
> > > Setting it to 'off' will forcibly disable the QSEECOM interface,
> > > allowing incompatible machines to function.
> > > 
> > > Setting it to 'roefivars' will enable the QSEECOM interface, making UEFI
> > > variables read-only.
> > > 
> > > All other values mean 'auto', trusting the allowlist in the module.
> > 
> > I don't see the need for this. The kernel should just provide sensible
> > defaults.
> 
> It does provide _defaults_. However with the next commit we mass-enable
> QSEECOM for SoC families, which includes untested WoA devices. If the
> user observes a misbehaviour of the UEFI vars or any other
> QSEECOM-related driver on those platforms, it is much easier to let
> users test and workaround UEFI misbehaviour.

You basically know by now which machines supports qseecom and which do
not, right (e.g. UFS storage means non-persistent EFI vars)?

And it's a pretty bad user experience to have people trying to write
efivariables when setting up a machine and then spend hours trying to
debug why they don't persist after a reboot.

I don't think that's fair to users.

Let whoever brings up a new machine figure this out. It's just one
entry, no scaling issues, and we get accurate information (unless
Qualcomm, who sits on the documentation, is willing to provide it
upfront).

Johan

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-26 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-24 22:53 [PATCH v4 0/8] firmware: qcom: enable UEFI variables on Lenovo Yoga C630 Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-24 22:53 ` [PATCH v4 1/8] efi: efivars: don't crash in efivar_set_variable{,_locked} in r/o case Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-26 10:04   ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-26 11:03     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-26 12:51       ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-26 12:54         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-27 12:27           ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-28 15:05             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-30 12:15               ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-24 22:53 ` [PATCH v4 2/8] firmware: qcom: scm: allow specifying quirks for QSEECOM implementations Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-24 22:53 ` [PATCH v4 3/8] firmware: qcom: uefisecapp: add support for R/O UEFI vars Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-07-16 19:13   ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-07-16 21:07     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-24 22:53 ` [PATCH v4 4/8] firmware: qcom: enable QSEECOM on Lenovo Yoga C630 Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-24 22:53 ` [PATCH v4 5/8] firmware; qcom: scm: enable QSEECOM on SC8280XP CRD Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-26 23:34   ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-26 23:48     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-26 23:54     ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-27 12:23       ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-27 12:26         ` Konrad Dybcio
2025-06-27 12:50           ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-28 14:50             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-30 12:16               ` Johan Hovold
2025-07-16 19:02                 ` Bjorn Andersson
2025-06-24 22:53 ` [PATCH v4 6/8] firmware: qcom: scm: add modparam to control QSEECOM enablement Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-26 10:11   ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-26 11:08     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-26 12:58       ` Johan Hovold [this message]
2025-06-26 23:33         ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-27 12:46           ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-28 15:03             ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-30 12:42               ` Johan Hovold
2025-07-01 11:10                 ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-07-10  9:40                   ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-24 22:53 ` [PATCH v4 7/8] firmware: qcom: scm: rework QSEECOM allowlist Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-26  9:56   ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-26 11:09     ` Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-26 13:02       ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-24 22:53 ` [PATCH v4 8/8] arm64: dts: qcom: sdm850-lenovo-yoga-c630: fix RTC offset info Dmitry Baryshkov
2025-06-26 10:16   ` Johan Hovold
2025-06-26 11:10     ` Dmitry Baryshkov

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