From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from smtp.kernel.org (aws-us-west-2-korg-mail-alma10-1.taild15c8.ts.net [100.103.45.18]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2586E521227; Wed, 16 Sep 2026 14:30:47 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1789569049; cv=none; b=nMjtfvJCpuAXSIr2evgWLli/7+SCL0VxY+4Mfq+9JdqPOwlCl5oTnJkx1Z0p86cQvYy3rqAEJ8i1Ggd6tJtKaSZMHs4JQB6+rR3I7Me8JCOc/5RhP/ptArvMzIK3Eok1PIdQQZs1MSZWH8wHh0ta3wjvumgeSt5fM6svPFgzHfQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1789569049; c=relaxed/simple; bh=eidKeq4ulUavy98T6SGA6sf/tDZUFQd5Vg6vRS+1Nbw=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:References:MIME-Version: Content-Type:Content-Disposition:In-Reply-To; b=W4P5znVxjMmNVEYKbkgWpEL9DJJlhQCYULayjDGTfgctShJqRi688fZ+PtkYxKiZPPblIZPPthRDPadyW7+pk98sAaLjXCTabIjR85f0RtbWXBVY24fOKRcYXe0WkhNVzF/JXQMpPs22hyfX5yGcBNLttDddVj8vHEptcwo85iY= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b=LNOVW3P8; arc=none smtp.client-ip=100.103.45.18 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=kernel.org header.i=@kernel.org header.b="LNOVW3P8" Received: by smtp.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 31EF21F00893; Wed, 16 Sep 2026 14:30:33 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kernel.org; s=k20260515; t=1789569046; bh=Sf2nPqPSoF8deq5OYrsGYaM5lP9Vq8plK7Qs1+50D6w=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=LNOVW3P81mUBhRO0/pMJp0Fue9fjWU1wrtHSjWyAgH85HRAoZwM4kbPCQYpxU7+le Pe8FJmVgN3hXMijiNFNO2rRTXlno2shHa9jXQ2hzkn+BCFm3WG5AOkg6/YXeTPuSrM WvrIm64q2uPVC/8u1Pcrn9nUz5TG1foCGquzjdG0nCoyXrCzvC4zFdCQOjOyCOyNa8 /5pYj780rd7HwMC54yH0Hinwfk382BKUkcENW+jOObtYMdheFRmP/EszJ/jz7x5Opi 4ofgkbLAD4t4kUUCmGNoohdh3rRHHbNkvI3kCNSSmLZOp2jwQB/3fpRTGKh+NtIfy/ wrkiSsNDvPAig== Date: Wed, 16 Sep 2026 15:30:31 +0100 From: "Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM)" To: Nick Desaulniers Cc: Kees Cook , Linus Torvalds , Nathan Chancellor , Nicolas Schier , Bill Wendling , Justin Stitt , Masahiro Yamada , Alexey Gladkov , Thomas Gleixner , Ingo Molnar , Borislav Petkov , Dave Hansen , x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" , Paul Walmsley , Palmer Dabbelt , Albert Ou , Alexandre Ghiti , Arnd Bergmann , Catalin Marinas , Will Deacon , Mark Rutland , Ard Biesheuvel , Ilias Apalodimas , Josh Poimboeuf , Peter Zijlstra , Miguel Ojeda , Boqun Feng , Gary Guo , =?utf-8?B?QmrDtnJu?= Roy Baron , Benno Lossin , Andreas Hindborg , Alice Ryhl , Trevor Gross , Danilo Krummrich , Daniel Almeida , Tamir Duberstein , Alexandre Courbot , Onur =?utf-8?B?w5Z6a2Fu?= , Jonathan Corbet , Randy Dunlap , "Gustavo A. R. Silva" , linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, llvm@lists.linux.dev, linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-efi@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, Jens Axboe , linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 14/21] kbuild: batch module finalisation Message-ID: References: <20260914-build-speedup-v2-0-39817ec5db23@kernel.org> <20260914-build-speedup-v2-14-39817ec5db23@kernel.org> <202609141056.6AE2C82E@keescook> <202609150943.000EC9277@keescook> Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-efi@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 10:56:01AM -0700, Nick Desaulniers wrote: > On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 9:49 AM Kees Cook wrote: > > > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2026 at 11:44:01AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote: > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2026 at 11:00:27AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > > > > On Mon, Sep 14, 2026 at 10:22:13AM +0100, Lorenzo Stoakes (ARM) wrote: > > > > > Module finalisation on allmodconfig builds consists of a large number of > > > > > very short-lived jobs, and the make job dispatcher cannot possibly dispatch > > > > > jobs fast enough. > > > > > > > > This "cannot possibly" sounds like a weird LLM language intensifier. I'd > > > > > > Again that's my writing actually, probably best to stop assuming LLM now ;) > > > > Apologies; whatever the opposite of the Turing Test is, I have failed. > > :P The AIs are winning: humans are suspicious of each other now. :) > > Is there a term for this yet? Cylon paranoia? Haha, now you'll get me watching that series again... and it'll all probably feel very prescient! ;) > > -- > Thanks, > ~Nick Desaulniers -- Cheers, Lorenzo