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From: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <matthewg@nvidia.com>,
	keyrings@vger.kernel.org, linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org,
	rafael@kernel.org, linux-pm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-efi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 13/17] tpm: Add verification of kernel signing key provenance
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2026 14:20:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <asqsHMX1YUUDdy75@srcf.ucam.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aeedde06c51910afe5231d9f359bb8767c01b5bd.camel@HansenPartnership.com>

On Sat, Oct 10, 2026 at 11:42:58AM +0200, James Bottomley wrote:

> This does strike me as very elaborate, especially the ephemeral key
> bit; would you countenance a simplification?  Since all you want is
> proof that the hibernate image hash matches the one the creating kernel
> made, you could simply create your kernel only NV index as a PCR and
> measure the hash directly to that.  Since user space is barred from
> writing, all you need is an audit of the measurement going into the NV
> register (indeed, it could be an ordinary NV index you simply write the
> hash value to), coupled with a read of PCR 5.  Then your audit log
> directly verifies the hibernate image hash and you don't have to bother
> with the ephemeral keys.

Just to be clear, "ephemeral keys" here refers to the ephemeral signing 
keys and not the generated AK, right? I /think/ that would work, but let 
me ponder that some more.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-10 21:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-10-08 13:20 [RFC] Make hibernation work with lockdown Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 01/17] tpm: Define a kernel-owned TPM NV index that can't be modified by userland Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:41   ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:24     ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 16:23   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-09  8:33     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10 21:36       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 17:06   ` Ilias Apalodimas
2026-10-10  9:22   ` James Bottomley
2026-10-10 21:26     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 02/17] efi: Add a mechanism to modify TPM state depending on kernel security features Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:38   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 03/17] tpm: Allow tpm2_start_auth_session() to start an audit session Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 04/17] tpm: Log commands executed in " Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 05/17] tpm: Add a kernel attestation key and signed audit digest retrieval Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:45   ` James Bottomley
2026-10-09  8:29     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 06/17] tpm: Use TPM2_NV_ReadPublic to read NV index names Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 07/17] tpm: Add in-kernel support for reading NV indices Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 08/17] tpm: Add NV define, undefine and write helpers Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 09/17] tpm: Provision the kernel NV index at registration Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 10/17] tpm: Move the bounds-checked response reader to a header Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 11/17] tpm: Add kernel signing key creation with audited provenance Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 17:00   ` James Bottomley
2026-10-09  8:31     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 12/17] tpm: Add signing with the kernel signing key Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 13/17] tpm: Add verification of kernel signing key provenance Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10  9:34   ` James Bottomley
2026-10-10 21:18     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10  9:42   ` James Bottomley
2026-10-10 21:20     ` Matthew Garrett [this message]
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 14/17] PM: hibernate: Add image digest and signature page infrastructure Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 15/17] PM: hibernate: Sign and verify images with a kernel-generated TPM key Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 16/17] PM: hibernate: Refuse to verify images with a virtual TPM Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 13:20 ` [PATCH 17/17] PM: hibernate: Allow hibernation under lockdown with signed images Matthew Garrett
2026-10-08 16:53   ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-09  8:31     ` Matthew Garrett
2026-10-10 21:29       ` Jarkko Sakkinen
2026-10-08 15:56 ` [RFC] Make hibernation work with lockdown Jarkko Sakkinen

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