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* cpuidle - minimum time for sleep
@ 2014-10-09 18:28 Ran Shalit
  2014-10-09 19:01 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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From: Ran Shalit @ 2014-10-09 18:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: kernelnewbies, linux-pm, linux-omap, linux-embedded

Hello,

Does anybody know what is the minimum expected time for sleep period
with the cpuidle ?

I intend t use the menu governer, and I try to estimate the sleep time.

Thanks,
Ran

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* Re: cpuidle - minimum time for sleep
  2014-10-09 18:28 cpuidle - minimum time for sleep Ran Shalit
@ 2014-10-09 19:01 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
  2014-10-09 19:20   ` Nishanth Menon
  2014-10-10  3:22   ` manty kuma
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Valdis.Kletnieks @ 2014-10-09 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Ran Shalit; +Cc: kernelnewbies, linux-pm, linux-omap, linux-embedded

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On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 21:28:23 +0300, Ran Shalit said:

> Does anybody know what is the minimum expected time for sleep period
> with the cpuidle ?

Both processor dependent and sleep level dependent.  There's a certain
amount of latency induced by the hardware waking up.

Look at /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpuidle/state*/latency

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* Re: cpuidle - minimum time for sleep
  2014-10-09 19:01 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
@ 2014-10-09 19:20   ` Nishanth Menon
  2014-10-10  3:22   ` manty kuma
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From: Nishanth Menon @ 2014-10-09 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Valdis.Kletnieks, Ran Shalit
  Cc: kernelnewbies, linux-pm, linux-omap, linux-embedded

On 10/09/2014 02:01 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
> On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 21:28:23 +0300, Ran Shalit said:
> 
>> Does anybody know what is the minimum expected time for sleep period
>> with the cpuidle ?
> 
> Both processor dependent and sleep level dependent.  There's a certain
> amount of latency induced by the hardware waking up.
> 
> Look at /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpuidle/state*/latency
> 
Yes, that is correct. the sleep and wakeup time are dependent on the
power state we attempt (may or maynot achieve)

I personally toggle an unused pin using padmux register write with
weak pull up/down in controlled tests (mostly using disable =1 for
states I am not measuring), then capture pinctrl toggles using [1]
into a csv for many thousands of iterations then use the conservative
values. I usually do this at the slowest frequency to capture the
worst case values that i feed into cpuidle_driver.states.exit_latency
and appropriate value for target_residency - I usually ignore
power_usage as the value is never a constant and depends on quiet a
few factors that i cannot discuss in public domain.

Here are some helpful links on OMAP specific strategies (these may be
a little old, but just search for CPUIDLE latency measure in google)

https://lwn.net/Articles/384146/

http://www.omappedia.org/wiki/Power_Management_Device_Latencies_Measurement

http://lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-dev/2010-August/000568.html


[1] https://www.saleae.com/

-- 
Regards,
Nishanth Menon

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* Re: cpuidle - minimum time for sleep
  2014-10-09 19:01 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
  2014-10-09 19:20   ` Nishanth Menon
@ 2014-10-10  3:22   ` manty kuma
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From: manty kuma @ 2014-10-10  3:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Valdis Kletnieks
  Cc: linux-omap, kernelnewbies, linux-embedded, Ran Shalit, linux-pm


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>> Does anybody know what is the minimum expected time for sleep period
>> with the cpuidle ?
By sleep period do you mean sleep time for complete device or only for
cpu's? If you want to check for device as a whole, you can see the print in
the kernel log. If you want to check programmatically,
suspend_devices_and_enter() is the function.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 4:01 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu> wrote:

> On Thu, 09 Oct 2014 21:28:23 +0300, Ran Shalit said:
>
> > Does anybody know what is the minimum expected time for sleep period
> > with the cpuidle ?
>
> Both processor dependent and sleep level dependent.  There's a certain
> amount of latency induced by the hardware waking up.
>
> Look at /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpuidle/state*/latency
>
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