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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com>
Cc: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>,
	Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@codefidence.com>,
	Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
	linux-embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Recommendation for activating a deferred module init in the kernel
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:59:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1213783190.26255.1188.camel@pmac.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806181056300.13297@vixen.sonytel.be>

On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 10:57 +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 09:20:22AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:47 +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
> > > > This may sound like a stupid question, but why are you compiling the 
> > > > modules statically?
> > > 
> > > I wondered that.
> > > 
> > > One potential reason to avoid modules is that they waste RAM -- you have
> > > to allocate an integral number of pages for each one, which means an
> > > average of 2KiB wasted for each module you load. Although that isn't
> > > much, it's not zero either. It might be possible to optimise that by
> > > 'packing' module allocations, if you're careful about it.
> > >...
> > > So the only real reason I can see to avoid modules in the _current_
> > > kernel would be the wasted RAM, which should be something we can
> > > address.
> > >...
> > 
> > You miss the size increase imposed by CONFIG_MODULES=y.
> > 
> > E.g. setting CONFIG_MODULES=y in the arm collie_defconfig will
> > increase the size of vmlinux by 14% (sic).
> > 
> > I haven't investigated why it takes that much space, but stuff like 
> > kernel/module.o taking 23kB and each EXPORT_SYMBOL requiring a few
> > bytes simply cannot be completely eliminated.
> 
> Sounds like we need a tool that strips out the unneeded symbols, given a list
> of modules?

And do the --gc-sections step again after that... :)

-- 
dwmw2


  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-18  9:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-18  6:47 Recommendation for activating a deferred module init in the kernel Gilad Ben-Yossef
2008-06-18  8:20 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-18  8:32   ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-18  8:52   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-18  8:57     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-18  9:59       ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2008-06-18 10:33         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-18 10:41           ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-18 11:37           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-18 14:56             ` Nicolas Pitre
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-17 18:23 Tim Bird
2008-06-17 18:51 ` David VomLehn
2008-06-17 19:07 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-17 19:22   ` Jim Freeman
2008-06-17 20:06     ` Tim Bird
2008-06-17 19:52   ` Tim Bird
2008-06-17 19:55     ` Tim Bird
2008-06-17 20:23       ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-17 20:35         ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-17 22:48           ` Stefan Richter
2008-06-18  0:03             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-06-18  0:10               ` Stefan Richter
2008-06-18  9:38                 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-06-17 20:19     ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-18 12:38 ` Amol Lad
     [not found] ` <4858A659.8030502@codefidence.com>
2008-06-18 16:08   ` Tim Bird
     [not found]     ` <4859ECF3.3000500@codefidence.com>
2008-06-19 17:58       ` Tim Bird
2008-06-22  7:08         ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2008-06-23 17:40           ` Tim Bird
2008-07-01 14:20             ` Gilad Ben-Yossef

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