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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
	michael@free-electrons.com
Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features not needed on embedded devices
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 11:15:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1217499316.3454.118.camel@pmac.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080731.030205.153067850.davem@davemloft.net>

On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 03:02 -0700, David Miller wrote:
> I explained why I didn't want to apply the IGMP one too.
>
> Andrew didn't like my objections, but that doesn't mean I
> need to defend my position further.

You said that it was part of the core BSD socket API and "Like TCP and
UDP, multicast capabilities are something applications can always depend
upon being available".

Andrew's response was that embedded devices have full control over their
userspace and that they are in a position to _know_ that they never use
multicast, so your argument is bogus. If they _know_ they don't want
multicast, it makes a lot of sense for them to turn it off.

While I agree with Andrew's observation, I'd also respectfully submit
that your argument is more fundamentally bogus than that. TCP and UDP
are _not_ universally available. They go away if you set CONFIG_INET=n.

-- 
dwmw2

  reply	other threads:[~2008-07-31 10:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-31  9:27 [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features not needed on embedded devices Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31  9:27 ` [patch 1/4] Configure out AIO support Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 10:09   ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-07-31 10:12     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 22:42       ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-08-05 18:15         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-05 18:26           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-05 18:36             ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-07-31  9:27 ` [patch 2/4] Configure out file locking features Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 13:53   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 14:20     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 15:37       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 16:26         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 16:49           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 16:57             ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 17:32             ` Tim Bird
2008-07-31 18:12               ` Robert Schwebel
2008-07-31 19:31                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-01  7:28                   ` Robert Schwebel
2008-07-31 19:16               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 20:37                 ` Tim Bird
2008-08-02 16:38   ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 13:52     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-04 18:16       ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 18:24         ` Tim Bird
2008-08-04 18:25           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 18:54             ` Matt Mackall
2008-08-04 19:42               ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 22:32             ` Tim Bird
2008-08-06 13:12         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-07 22:55           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-31  9:27 ` [patch 3/4] Configure out ethtool support Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 10:40   ` Ben Hutchings
2008-07-31 10:49     ` David Miller
2008-07-31 10:54       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:57         ` David Miller
2008-07-31 10:42   ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:51     ` David Miller
2008-07-31 11:29       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 11:33         ` David Miller
2008-07-31 11:46           ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 11:50             ` David Miller
2008-07-31 15:58             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 16:35               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31  9:27 ` [patch 4/4] Configure out IGMP support Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-01 19:41   ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-04 12:48     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-04 12:53       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-04 13:53       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31  9:40 ` [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features not needed on embedded devices David Miller
2008-07-31  9:51   ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31  9:55     ` David Miller
2008-07-31  9:59       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:02         ` David Miller
2008-07-31 10:15           ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2008-07-31 10:25             ` David Miller
2008-07-31 17:59               ` Tim Bird
2008-07-31 18:50                 ` [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features Ulrich Teichert
2008-07-31 19:46                   ` Josh Boyer
2008-07-31 19:55                     ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01  7:17                     ` Robert Schwebel
2008-08-01 19:15                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-01 19:47                       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 16:42       ` [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features not needed on embedded devices Tim Bird
2008-07-31 17:20         ` Tim Bird

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