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From: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@gmail.com>,
	Ulrich Teichert <krypton@ulrich-teichert.org>,
	Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	thomas.petazzoni@free-electrons.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
	michael@free-electrons.com
Subject: Re: [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:47:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1217620043.3454.492.camel@pmac.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808011212430.3277@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>

On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 12:15 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 20:50 +0200, Ulrich Teichert wrote:
> > > 
> > > I do not think of NTP as desktop or server application, but that's
> > > probably just me,
> > 
> > No, it's not just you.  NTP is useful in cases where things do care
> > about time but hardware designers were too cheap to put an RTC on the
> > board.
> 
> In fact, didn't one of the netgear firewall/switch/routers end up being 
> famous for overloading some NTP service exactly because all the _millions_ 
> of routers ended up using the same (incorrect) NTP host?
> 
> So NTP is very definitely an embedded thing too.

And it's _still_ a red herring.

I just booted a !CONFIG_IGMP kernel on my workstation and NTP is running
just fine (as is IPv6).

Even though ntpd has a configure test for multicast and can be built
without multicast support at all, it isn't even necessary to build it
that way -- the stock Fedora build of it works just fine.

(Actually, I never managed to get ntpd to work _with_ multicast, but
that's a different issue... :)

-- 
dwmw2

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-01 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 65+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-07-31  9:27 [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features not needed on embedded devices Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31  9:27 ` [patch 1/4] Configure out AIO support Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 10:09   ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-07-31 10:12     ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 22:42       ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-08-05 18:15         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-05 18:26           ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-05 18:36             ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-07-31  9:27 ` [patch 2/4] Configure out file locking features Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 13:53   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 14:20     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 15:37       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 16:26         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 16:49           ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 16:57             ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 17:32             ` Tim Bird
2008-07-31 18:12               ` Robert Schwebel
2008-07-31 19:31                 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-01  7:28                   ` Robert Schwebel
2008-07-31 19:16               ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 20:37                 ` Tim Bird
2008-08-02 16:38   ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 13:52     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-04 18:16       ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 18:24         ` Tim Bird
2008-08-04 18:25           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 18:54             ` Matt Mackall
2008-08-04 19:42               ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-08-04 22:32             ` Tim Bird
2008-08-06 13:12         ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-07 22:55           ` J. Bruce Fields
2008-07-31  9:27 ` [patch 3/4] Configure out ethtool support Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31 10:40   ` Ben Hutchings
2008-07-31 10:49     ` David Miller
2008-07-31 10:54       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:57         ` David Miller
2008-07-31 10:42   ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:51     ` David Miller
2008-07-31 11:29       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 11:33         ` David Miller
2008-07-31 11:46           ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 11:50             ` David Miller
2008-07-31 15:58             ` Adrian Bunk
2008-07-31 16:35               ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-07-31  9:27 ` [patch 4/4] Configure out IGMP support Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-01 19:41   ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-04 12:48     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2008-08-04 12:53       ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-04 13:53       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31  9:40 ` [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features not needed on embedded devices David Miller
2008-07-31  9:51   ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31  9:55     ` David Miller
2008-07-31  9:59       ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:02         ` David Miller
2008-07-31 10:15           ` David Woodhouse
2008-07-31 10:25             ` David Miller
2008-07-31 17:59               ` Tim Bird
2008-07-31 18:50                 ` [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features Ulrich Teichert
2008-07-31 19:46                   ` Josh Boyer
2008-07-31 19:55                     ` David Woodhouse
2008-08-01  7:17                     ` Robert Schwebel
2008-08-01 19:15                     ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-01 19:47                       ` David Woodhouse [this message]
2008-07-31 16:42       ` [patch 0/4] [resend] Add configuration options to disable features not needed on embedded devices Tim Bird
2008-07-31 17:20         ` Tim Bird

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