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From: john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>
To: Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>
Cc: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
	linux-embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Lennart Poettering <lennart@poettering.net>
Subject: Re: RFC: android logger feedback request
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:47:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1324514820.30527.148.camel@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20111222002719.GA18361@suse.de>

On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 16:27 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 04:18:11PM -0800, john stultz wrote:
> > On Wed, 2011-12-21 at 15:19 -0800, Greg KH wrote:
> > > What way is it superior?  Again, why not extend syslog?  Why not "fix"
> > > syslog if this really is a superior thing?  How does this tie into Kay
> > > and Lennard's proposal for work in this area?
> > 
> > There is also some overlap functionality wise with pstore as well, as I
> > believe the logger is used as a known location in memory where messages
> > can be fetched from after a kernel panic or crash.
> 
> That sounds like a major overlap, can't pstore be used for this
> functionality today instead of the logger code?

It may be able to suffice for some portion of the functionality, it was
suggested that we consider doing something like try to make logger use
pstore as a backend.  I'm not really familiar with pstore, but I don't
know if its able to preserve messages from userland, so it may not
really be sufficient in of itself.

Also, if I understand correctly, logger also is able to store messages
from hardware modems or other hardware that run their own micro-os in a
central location. This may be closer to the pstore mce bits, but its not
clear yet to me how much overlap is there.

But I've not yet really spent too much time looking at logger yet, so I
can't really comment too strongly here. Just wanted to make sure folks
have looked at all the other similar work.

thanks
-john

  reply	other threads:[~2011-12-22  0:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-21 22:59 RFC: android logger feedback request Tim Bird
2011-12-21 23:19 ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  0:18   ` john stultz
2011-12-22  0:27     ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  0:47       ` john stultz [this message]
2011-12-22  1:09         ` john stultz
2011-12-22  0:42     ` Tim Bird
2011-12-22  0:49       ` john stultz
2011-12-22  1:00         ` john stultz
2011-12-22  0:36   ` Tim Bird
2011-12-22  0:51     ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  1:32       ` Tim Bird
2011-12-22  1:47         ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  2:12           ` Tim Bird
2011-12-22  3:44             ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  3:45             ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  3:47             ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  4:12               ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  4:22                 ` Brian Swetland
2011-12-22  4:43                   ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  4:47                   ` david
2011-12-22  4:58                     ` Brian Swetland
2011-12-22  5:07                       ` david
2011-12-22  5:21                       ` david
2011-12-22 13:40                   ` Lennart Poettering
2011-12-22  4:49                 ` david
2011-12-22  2:34           ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  1:20     ` NeilBrown
2011-12-22  1:49       ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  2:14       ` Tim Bird
2011-12-22  2:34       ` Brian Swetland
2011-12-22  3:49         ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  4:36           ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  5:01         ` david
2011-12-22  4:52       ` david
2011-12-22  5:06         ` Brian Swetland
2011-12-22  5:14           ` david
2011-12-22  5:25             ` Brian Swetland
2011-12-22  6:09               ` Greg KH
2011-12-23 15:22                 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-23 16:29                   ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  7:05           ` NeilBrown
2012-01-06 20:56             ` Tim Bird
2012-01-06 21:20               ` Greg KH
2012-01-06 22:41                 ` Tim Bird
2012-01-06 23:17                   ` Greg KH
2012-01-06 23:35                   ` Greg KH
2011-12-22 14:59       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-22 15:13         ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  4:42     ` david
2011-12-22  0:59 ` David Brown
2011-12-29  0:39 ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-04 15:34   ` Geunsik Lim

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