From: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>
To: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Cc: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
Leon Woestenberg <leon.woestenberg@gmail.com>,
David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s), linux-embedded@vger list
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:28:59 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080611052859.GB27488@linux-sh.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080610105034.GB1900@uranus.ravnborg.org>
On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:50:34PM +0200, Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> >
> > When did this policy change, so that it's now acceptable to depend on
> > Perl, which is roughly equivalent as a tool dependency?
>
> We have perl as a mandatory part of the kernel build in several places
> for various architectures.
> And I do not recall anyone submitting a bug that they could not build
> a kernel due to the perl dependency.
> But I am obviously well aware of that we use it for the time stuff.
>
And plenty of places in scripts/ have dependencies on either perl or
python already (and have for some time). Both are pretty ubiquitous these
days, whether people like it or not. There's not much point in trying to
keep the build limping along for people who don't want to set up these
tools on their platforms, since they're going to lose out on half of the
functionality anyways (checkstack, bloat-o-meter, etc.).
Building natively is a good stress tester, and does find a lot of bugs.
For that same reason, if you can build the kernel, you can build python
and perl natively on your platform, too. Some of us have already been
doing this for ages and have no idea what the fuss is about.
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2008-05-28 21:52 ` [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s), linux-embedded@vger list Rob Landley
2008-06-09 21:27 ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-06-10 3:53 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-10 4:30 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-10 6:55 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-10 7:54 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-10 9:09 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-10 13:12 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-10 13:25 ` Will Newton
2008-06-10 13:33 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-10 13:47 ` Will Newton
2008-06-10 13:53 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-10 14:00 ` Grant Likely
2008-06-10 14:01 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-10 14:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-11 5:34 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-10 13:49 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-11 5:25 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 18:18 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 18:55 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-12 20:55 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-15 21:48 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-17 14:11 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-10 13:47 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-10 10:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-10 10:36 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-10 10:50 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-11 5:28 ` Paul Mundt [this message]
2008-06-10 17:36 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-11 3:35 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-11 5:47 ` Greg Ungerer
2008-06-12 0:41 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 7:55 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-12 15:23 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Tim Bird
2008-06-12 15:50 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 16:05 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 16:08 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 16:15 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 16:12 ` Robert P. J. Day
2008-06-13 0:25 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-13 1:22 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-13 6:55 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 15:06 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 7:04 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-13 15:02 ` linux-embedded-owner
2008-06-13 17:00 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-13 17:12 ` Bill Traynor
2008-06-13 18:44 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-13 18:55 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-13 19:00 ` Bill Traynor
2008-06-13 19:43 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-06-13 17:30 ` Makefile debugger linux-embedded-owner
2008-06-13 8:50 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 9:11 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 14:51 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 7:58 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 16:00 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 17:38 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-17 13:57 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 11:14 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-13 11:22 ` Bart Van Assche
2008-06-12 18:29 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-12 19:02 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-13 13:29 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-13 13:59 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-12 16:08 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-12 16:28 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-12 16:31 ` Paul Mundt
2008-06-12 16:38 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 18:50 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-12 17:14 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-12 17:22 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 17:23 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-13 18:01 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 16:37 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 17:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-12 17:19 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-12 17:17 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-13 11:15 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-13 11:17 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-12 18:34 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 19:00 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-06-15 21:51 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-12 18:30 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 18:57 ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-06-12 16:23 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-12 18:37 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 18:45 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-15 23:12 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 8:02 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 8:28 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-16 9:25 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 1:25 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Rob Landley
2008-06-13 1:28 ` Robert P. J. Day
2008-06-13 1:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-13 6:30 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 18:51 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-13 22:25 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-13 23:19 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-14 0:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-14 11:26 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-16 11:39 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 12:06 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 13:32 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 16:28 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-16 22:28 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 22:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-16 5:11 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 11:33 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 8:33 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-16 11:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 11:43 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-16 7:55 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 15:15 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-17 6:27 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-17 13:46 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-17 14:22 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 4:57 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 11:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 4:31 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 8:13 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-16 8:21 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 3:11 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-13 18:47 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-13 6:43 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 8:38 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 9:06 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 9:12 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-13 9:32 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 15:28 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-14 0:31 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 4:23 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 10:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 11:09 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-16 11:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-16 11:59 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-16 16:43 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-13 10:03 ` cross-compiling alternatives Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 11:24 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 13:17 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-13 13:28 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 13:40 ` Alexander Neundorf
2008-06-13 13:56 ` Matthieu CASTET
2008-06-13 14:41 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 14:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-06-13 14:51 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 14:55 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 15:16 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 18:45 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-06-13 19:10 ` Robert Schwebel
2008-06-16 4:08 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 7:31 ` Peter Korsgaard
2008-06-16 14:33 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-16 16:45 ` Bernhard Fischer
2008-06-13 19:14 ` cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s)...) Rob Landley
2008-06-13 15:25 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 18:25 ` [PATCH 0/1] Embedded Maintainer(s), linux-embedded@vger list Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-12 21:11 ` David VomLehn
2008-06-12 21:42 ` James Chapman
2008-06-12 21:46 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-12 21:53 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-12 21:56 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-06-13 8:39 ` James Chapman
2008-06-13 9:02 ` Daniel THOMPSON
2008-06-13 11:28 ` James Chapman
2008-06-12 22:02 ` Jim Freeman
2008-06-13 13:14 ` Samuel Robb
2008-06-13 14:36 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 14:26 ` Enrico Weigelt
2008-06-13 22:24 ` David VomLehn
2008-06-15 15:39 ` Leon Woestenberg
2008-06-15 21:43 ` Rob Landley
2008-06-23 17:22 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 18:57 ` Sam Ravnborg
2008-06-23 19:12 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 19:33 ` Sam Ravnborg
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2008-06-23 17:28 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 17:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-23 18:19 ` Denys Vlasenko
2008-06-23 19:05 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-25 9:50 ` James Chapman
2008-06-25 15:41 ` Adrian Bunk
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