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From: Bernhard Fischer <rep.dot.nop@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: cross-compiling alternatives (was Re: [PATCH 0/1] Embedded
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Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:50:12 +0200
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To: Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>
Cc: Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Bill Gatliff <bgat@billgatliff.com>, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>, Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>, Greg Ungerer <gerg@snapgear.com>, Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>, Leon Woestenberg <leon.woestenberg@gmail.com>, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:38:42PM -0400, Mike Frysinger wrote:
>On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Paul Mundt wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 11:28:10AM -0500, Bill Gatliff wrote:

>>> That's how emdebian is doing a bunch of their stuff, and I have to admit that it
>>> works pretty darned well.  It's also handy for configuration management, since
>>> the cache file itself is plaintext and therefore svn/git/bzr/cvs/...-friendly.
>>
>> Yes, that's the easy case. It's things like perl that are the corner
>> cases, and my objection comes from the fact that people think we ought to
>> not have the kernel depend on perl rather than just fixing the package
>> itself. Autoconf/libtool damage is an entirely different problem :-)
>
>of the core packages, perl and openssl tend to be heavily damaged.
>openssl because it depends on perl instead of a real build system.

It's also a pity that automake doesn't work with microperl. And even for
the most simple .pm you have to do perlward^Wawkward stuff like

ifeq ($(BR2_PACKAGE_AUTOMAKE),y)
        # we need to build a perl for the host just for Errno.pm
        (cd $(MICROPERL_DIR); ./Configure -de; \
         $(MAKE) CC="$(HOSTCC)"; \
         $(SHELL) ext/util/make_ext nonxs Errno MAKE="$(firstword $(MAKE))"; \
        )
endif
        (cd $(MICROPERL_DIR); chmod u+w uconfig.h; . ./uconfig.sh; \
         $(MAKE) -f Makefile.micro regen_uconfig; \
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