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From: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>
To: Phillip Lougher <phillip@lougher.demon.co.uk>
Cc: jaredeh@gmail.com, Linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd <linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Jörn Engel" <joern@logfs.org>,
	tim.bird@am.sony.com, cotte@de.ibm.com, nickpiggin@yahoo.com.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH 04/10] AXFS: axfs_inode.c
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:00:25 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200808221200.26052.arnd@arndb.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <48AE22F5.3000309@lougher.demon.co.uk>

On Friday 22 August 2008, Phillip Lougher wrote:
> > 
> > This looks very nice, but could use some comments about how the data is
> > actually stored on disk. It took me some time to figure out that it actually
> > allows to do tail merging into compressed blocks, which I was about to suggest
> > you implement ;-). Cramfs doesn't have them, and I found that they are the
> > main reason why squashfs compresses better than cramfs, besides the default
> > block size, which you can change on either one.
> 
> Squashfs has much larger block sizes than cramfs (last time I looked it 
> was limited to 4K blocks), and it compresses the metadata which helps to 
> get better compression.  But tail merging (fragments in Squashfs 
> terminology) is obviously a major reason why Squashfs gets good compression.

The *default* block size in cramfs is smaller than in squashfs, but they both
have user selectable block sizes. I found the impact of compressed metadata
to be almost zero. I hacked up a mksquashfs to avoid tail merging, and found
that the image size for squashfs and cramfs is practically identical if you
use the same block size and no tail merging.

> The AXFS code is rather obscure but it doesn't look to me that it does 
> tail merging.  The following code wouldn't work if the block in question 
> was a tail contained in a larger block.  It assumes the block extends to 
> the end of the compressed block (cblk_size - cnode_offset).

yes, I thought the same thing when I first read that code, and was about
to send a lengthy reply about how it should be changed when I saw that
it already does exactly that ;-).

	Arnd <><

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-08-22 10:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-21  5:45 [PATCH 04/10] AXFS: axfs_inode.c Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21  8:35 ` Carsten Otte
2008-08-21 11:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 12:17 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-21 15:06   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-21 15:12     ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-22  2:22   ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22  3:23     ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22  3:29       ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 10:00     ` Arnd Bergmann [this message]
2008-08-22 17:08       ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22 17:19         ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-22 18:04           ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22  0:21 ` Phillip Lougher
2008-08-22  3:27   ` Jared Hulbert
2008-08-22  3:46     ` Phillip Lougher

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