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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: dvomlehn@cisco.com, Grant Erickson <gerickson@nuovations.com>
Cc: Bill Gatliff <bgat@billgatliff.com>,
	Matt Sealey <matt@genesi-usa.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Stefan Roese <sr@denx.de>,
	Wolfgang Denx <wd@denx.de>,
	linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH/RFC] Add Alternative Log Buffer Support for printk Messages
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:45:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200811251345.11350.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1227646490.5404.5.camel@cuplxvomd02.corp.sa.net>

No comment from me on $SUBJECT beyond "it seems plausible", but ...

On Tuesday 25 November 2008, David VomLehn wrote:
> The important point, though, is that device tree is the only
> thing approaching a standard on any non-x86-based platform for passing
> structured information from the bootloader to the kernel. The command
> line is just not sufficient for this.

Me, I'll be happier if I don't have to try using that device tree.
Having board-specific code in the kernel is a more complete solution,
and makes it a lot easier to cope with all the hardware goofage.

Recall that the *original* notion behind OpenBoot (now "OpenFirmware")
was to have tables for the stuff that was table-friendly, and call
out to FORTH code (possibly not just at boot time) for the rest.
(Given the choice of FORTH vs ACPI bytecodes, I'd go for FORTH; but
the better option is "neither".)

Right now I see an awful lot of work going into trying to force lots
of stuff into table format.  Even when it's the sort of one-off or
board-specific quirkery that was an original motivation for having
FORTH escapes (tasks that were not table-friendly).

- Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2008-11-25 21:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-11-25 18:34 [PATCH/RFC] Add Alternative Log Buffer Support for printk Messages Grant Erickson
2008-11-25 18:53 ` Matt Sealey
2008-11-25 18:55   ` Josh Boyer
2008-11-25 19:01     ` Matt Sealey
2008-11-25 19:04     ` Grant Erickson
2008-11-25 19:31       ` Matt Sealey
2008-11-25 19:51         ` Bill Gatliff
2008-11-25 20:07           ` Matt Sealey
2008-11-25 20:17             ` Grant Likely
2008-11-25 20:46               ` Matt Sealey
2008-11-25 20:19             ` Bill Gatliff
2008-11-25 20:54               ` David VomLehn
2008-11-25 21:45                 ` David Brownell [this message]
2008-11-26 20:57                   ` Matt Sealey
2008-11-25 20:14           ` Grant Likely
2008-11-25 21:05         ` Wolfgang Denk
2008-11-26  1:23 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-01-07  0:04 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-01-07  2:11   ` Grant Erickson
2009-01-07  2:11   ` Grant Erickson

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