From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
Cc: Marco Stornelli <marco.stornelli@gmail.com>,
Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
Linux Embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Walker <dwalker@soe.ucsc.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] Pramfs: Persistent and protected ram filesystem
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 19:37:04 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090622173704.GC21299@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A3FBFF0.40006@am.sony.com>
On Mon 2009-06-22 10:31:28, Tim Bird wrote:
> Pavel Machek wrote:
> >>> How do you handle hard-links, then?
> >> Indeed hard-links are not supported :) Due to the design of this fs
> >> there are some limitations explained in the documentation as not
> >> hard-link, only private memory mapping and so on. However this
> >> limitations don't limit the fs itself because you must consider the
> >> special goal of this fs.
> >
> > I did not see that in the changelog. If it is not general purpose
> > filesystem, it is lot less interesting.
>
> PRAMFS is not a general purpose filesystem. Please read
> the introductory post to this thread, or look at
> http://pramfs.sourceforge.net/ for more information.
Yeah, I seen that. It directly contradicts what you say.
> Since the purpose of PRAMFS is to provide a filesystem
> that is persistent across kernel instantions, it is not
> designed for high speed. Robustness in the face of
> kernel crashes or bugs is the highest priority, so
> PRAMFS has significant overhead to make the window
> of writability to the filesystem RAM as small as possible.
Really? So why don't you use well known, reliable fs like ext3?
> This is not a file system one would do kernel compiles on.
> This is where someone would keep a small amount of sensitive
> data, or crash logs that one needed to preserve over kernel
> invocations.
Really? Web page says:
#2. If the backing-store RAM is comparable in access speed to system
#memory, there's really no point in caching the file I/O data in the
#page cache. Better to move file data directly between the user buffers
#and the backing store RAM, i.e. use direct I/O. This prevents the
#unnecessary
So you don't cache it "because its fast", and then it is 13MB/sec?
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-22 17:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-13 13:20 [PATCH 00/14] Pramfs: Persistent and protected ram filesystem Marco
2009-06-13 13:41 ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-13 15:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-14 7:15 ` Marco
2009-06-14 11:08 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-06-15 15:51 ` Bryan Henderson
2009-06-15 17:42 ` Marco
2009-06-14 11:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-14 16:04 ` Marco
2009-06-16 15:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-16 19:15 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 6:44 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-26 11:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-26 16:56 ` Marco
2009-06-24 14:21 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21 6:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21 17:34 ` Marco
2009-06-21 20:52 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 6:33 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-22 17:20 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 17:31 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 17:37 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-06-22 18:07 ` Marco
2009-06-22 20:40 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-22 20:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 21:50 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 21:57 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 22:38 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 23:26 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-23 1:42 ` David VomLehn
2009-06-23 18:07 ` Marco
2009-06-23 18:29 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 17:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 6:32 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-22 18:55 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 21:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 22:02 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 18:08 ` Marco
2009-06-15 17:15 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-15 17:44 ` Marco
2009-06-15 17:58 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-17 18:32 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-18 6:35 ` Marco Stornelli
[not found] <4a4254e2.09c5660a.109d.46f8@mx.google.com>
2009-06-24 16:49 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:38 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:59 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-25 6:30 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-28 8:59 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-28 16:44 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-28 17:33 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-07-09 23:42 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 17:46 ` Pavel Machek
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