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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Marco <marco.stornelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
	Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
	Linux Embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@soe.ucsc.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] Pramfs: Persistent and protected ram filesystem
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:29:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090623182941.GA2045@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A4119DB.4030203@gmail.com>

On Tue 2009-06-23 20:07:23, Marco wrote:
> Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Mon 2009-06-22 14:50:01, Tim Bird wrote:
> >> Pavel Machek wrote:
> >>>> block of fast non-volatile RAM that need to access data on it using a
> >>>> standard filesytem interface."
> >>> Turns a block of fast RAM into 13MB/sec disk. Hmm. I believe you are
> >>> better with ext2.
> >> Not if you want the RAM-based filesystem to persist over a kernel
> >> invocation.
> > 
> > Yes, you'll need to code Persistent, RAM-based _block_device_. 
> 
> First of all I have to say that I'd like to update the site and make it
> clearer but at the moment it's not possible because I'm not the admin
> and I've already asked to the sourceforge support to have this possibility.
> 
> About the comments: sincerely I don't understand the comments. We have
> *already* a fs that takes care to remap a piace of ram (ram, sram,
> nvram, etc.), takes care of caching problems, takes care of write

Well, it looks pramfs design is confused. 13MB/sec shows that caching
_is_ useful for pramfs. So...?

> You are talked about journaling. This schema works well for a disk, but
> what about a piece of ram? What about a crazy kernel that write in that
> area for a bug? Do you remember for example the e1000e bug? It's not

I believe you need both journaling *and* write protection. How do you
handle power fault while writing data?
								Pavel
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-23 18:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-13 13:20 [PATCH 00/14] Pramfs: Persistent and protected ram filesystem Marco
2009-06-13 13:41 ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-13 15:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-14  7:15   ` Marco
2009-06-14 11:08     ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-06-15 15:51       ` Bryan Henderson
2009-06-15 17:42         ` Marco
2009-06-14 11:46     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-14 16:04       ` Marco
2009-06-16 15:07         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-16 19:15           ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:41             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25  6:44               ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-26 11:30                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-26 16:56                   ` Marco
2009-06-24 14:21                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21  6:40     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21 17:34       ` Marco
2009-06-21 20:52         ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22  6:33           ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-22 17:20             ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 17:31               ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 17:37                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 18:07                   ` Marco
2009-06-22 20:40                     ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-22 20:40                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 21:50                       ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 21:57                         ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 22:38                           ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 23:26                             ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-23  1:42                               ` David VomLehn
2009-06-23 18:07                           ` Marco
2009-06-23 18:29                             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-06-24 17:47                               ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25  6:32                                 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-22 18:55                   ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 21:02                     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 22:02                       ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 18:08                 ` Marco
2009-06-15 17:15 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-15 17:44   ` Marco
2009-06-15 17:58     ` Tim Bird
2009-06-17 18:32 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-18  6:35   ` Marco Stornelli
     [not found] <4a4254e2.09c5660a.109d.46f8@mx.google.com>
2009-06-24 16:49 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:38   ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:59     ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-25  6:30       ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-28  8:59         ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-28 16:44           ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-28 17:33           ` Marco Stornelli
2009-07-09 23:42             ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 17:46   ` Pavel Machek

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