From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Marco <marco.stornelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>,
Linux Embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Walker <dwalker@soe.ucsc.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] Pramfs: Persistent and protected ram filesystem
Date: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 20:29:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090623182941.GA2045@elf.ucw.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A4119DB.4030203@gmail.com>
On Tue 2009-06-23 20:07:23, Marco wrote:
> Pavel Machek wrote:
> > On Mon 2009-06-22 14:50:01, Tim Bird wrote:
> >> Pavel Machek wrote:
> >>>> block of fast non-volatile RAM that need to access data on it using a
> >>>> standard filesytem interface."
> >>> Turns a block of fast RAM into 13MB/sec disk. Hmm. I believe you are
> >>> better with ext2.
> >> Not if you want the RAM-based filesystem to persist over a kernel
> >> invocation.
> >
> > Yes, you'll need to code Persistent, RAM-based _block_device_.
>
> First of all I have to say that I'd like to update the site and make it
> clearer but at the moment it's not possible because I'm not the admin
> and I've already asked to the sourceforge support to have this possibility.
>
> About the comments: sincerely I don't understand the comments. We have
> *already* a fs that takes care to remap a piace of ram (ram, sram,
> nvram, etc.), takes care of caching problems, takes care of write
Well, it looks pramfs design is confused. 13MB/sec shows that caching
_is_ useful for pramfs. So...?
> You are talked about journaling. This schema works well for a disk, but
> what about a piece of ram? What about a crazy kernel that write in that
> area for a bug? Do you remember for example the e1000e bug? It's not
I believe you need both journaling *and* write protection. How do you
handle power fault while writing data?
Pavel
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-23 18:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-13 13:20 [PATCH 00/14] Pramfs: Persistent and protected ram filesystem Marco
2009-06-13 13:41 ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-13 15:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-14 7:15 ` Marco
2009-06-14 11:08 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-06-15 15:51 ` Bryan Henderson
2009-06-15 17:42 ` Marco
2009-06-14 11:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-14 16:04 ` Marco
2009-06-16 15:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-16 19:15 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 6:44 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-26 11:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-26 16:56 ` Marco
2009-06-24 14:21 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21 6:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21 17:34 ` Marco
2009-06-21 20:52 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 6:33 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-22 17:20 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 17:31 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 17:37 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 18:07 ` Marco
2009-06-22 20:40 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-22 20:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 21:50 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 21:57 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 22:38 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 23:26 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-23 1:42 ` David VomLehn
2009-06-23 18:07 ` Marco
2009-06-23 18:29 ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2009-06-24 17:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 6:32 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-22 18:55 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 21:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 22:02 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 18:08 ` Marco
2009-06-15 17:15 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-15 17:44 ` Marco
2009-06-15 17:58 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-17 18:32 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-18 6:35 ` Marco Stornelli
[not found] <4a4254e2.09c5660a.109d.46f8@mx.google.com>
2009-06-24 16:49 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:38 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:59 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-25 6:30 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-28 8:59 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-28 16:44 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-28 17:33 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-07-09 23:42 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 17:46 ` Pavel Machek
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