From: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@googlemail.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: tim.bird@am.sony.com, r.schwebel@pengutronix.de,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
arjan@linux.intel.com, kernel@pengutronix.de,
netdev@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: new ipdelay= option for faster netboot
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 06:56:53 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908180656.54011.vda.linux@googlemail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090817.182754.50348941.davem@davemloft.net>
On Tuesday 18 August 2009 03:27, David Miller wrote:
> From: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
> Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2009 18:24:26 -0700
>
> > David Miller wrote:
> >> I have card/switch combinations that take up to 10 seconds to
> >> negotiate a proper link.
> >
> > What types of delays are these timeouts supposed to
> > cover?
>
> The problem is that if you don't first give at least some time for the
> link to come up, the remaining time it takes the link to come up will
> end up chewing into the actual bootp/dhcp protocol timeouts. And
> that's what we're trying to avoid.
But in this case, they assign a static IP. They do not use DHCP.
So they pay this time penalty even if they wouldn't use networking
until sometime later (or never).
Since DHCP and any other networking activity like TCP connects
accomodate packet loss, things should work even without any delay
in kernel IP config code. The delay will be just shifted to the
moment when first DHCP/TCP/whatever negotiation happens.
If dropping delays altogether sounds too big a change,
then it makes sense at least to allow people to tweak it with
ipdelay=TIME_IN_MS
--
vda
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-18 4:56 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-14 17:02 New fast(?)-boot results on ARM Robert Schwebel
2009-08-14 18:19 ` Zan Lynx
2009-08-14 18:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-14 18:58 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-14 18:57 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-14 21:01 ` Linus Walleij
2009-08-14 21:15 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-14 21:35 ` Zan Lynx
2009-08-15 6:21 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-08-14 20:04 ` Denys Vlasenko
2009-08-14 20:43 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-15 5:59 ` Dirk Behme
2009-08-15 10:35 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2009-08-18 10:06 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-08-18 10:21 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-18 10:34 ` Alex Riesen
2009-08-18 10:44 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-18 10:48 ` Alex Riesen
2009-08-18 10:53 ` Robert Schwebel
2009-09-04 16:16 ` Wolfram Sang
2009-09-09 14:33 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2009-09-10 0:03 ` Denys Vlasenko
2009-08-17 19:15 ` Tim Bird
2009-08-17 22:35 ` new ipdelay= option for faster netboot (was Re: New fast(?)-boot results on ARM) Tim Bird
2009-08-18 1:03 ` new ipdelay= option for faster netboot David Miller
2009-08-18 1:24 ` Tim Bird
2009-08-18 1:27 ` David Miller
2009-08-18 1:40 ` Tim Bird
2009-08-18 1:56 ` David Miller
2009-08-19 11:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-08-18 4:56 ` Denys Vlasenko [this message]
2009-08-18 5:00 ` David Miller
2009-08-18 1:31 ` Rick Jones
2009-08-18 2:45 ` david
2009-08-18 4:56 ` Willy Tarreau
2009-08-15 6:14 ` New fast(?)-boot results on ARM Artem Bityutskiy
2009-08-18 14:06 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-08-18 15:31 ` Dirk Behme
2009-08-18 16:34 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-08-18 18:23 ` Tim Bird
2009-08-19 7:21 ` Sascha Hauer
2009-08-19 16:20 ` Dirk Behme
2009-08-20 8:57 ` Sascha Hauer
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