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From: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Cc: Bill Gatliff <bgat@billgatliff.com>,
	Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>,
	linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Generic PWM API implementation
Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 13:38:06 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200911281338.06907.david-b@pacbell.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fa686aa40911230939q3c65c681jee8c4098331f70ee@mail.gmail.com>

On Monday 23 November 2009, Grant Likely wrote: 
> *however* I do agree that it is the responsibility of platform code to
> set up chip-internal pin muxing and routing.

Fo over 95% of systems, I'd agree -- given that "platform" code
includes the arch/.../mach-X/board-Y.c files.  It's not realistic
to expect boot loaders to always handle that stuff.  If for no
other reason than the way they're produced:  get something that
will boot <OS> and call it done.  There will be nuances that need
to be corrected later.


> Actually, further than 
> that, I think it is actually firmware's responsibility to set up chip
> internal pin muxing because it leads to more common platform code in
> the kernel (less board specific fixups), but the kernel can fix it up
> in a pinch.

That something-less-than-5% remaining includes a lot of developer
boards, where there are multiple viable configurations.  The OS
needs to know which config it's going into at boot time.

And there's even a crazed subset of that 5% which wants to do
runtime reconfiguration.  Those folk do not accept static board
configs, whether done by a bootloader or anything else.

Some of that subset isn't entirely crazed.  I was reading a
chip errata document not long ago, which pointed out an issue
I've seen before:  suspend/resume cycles needed to reconfigure
things dynamically, to prevent leakage.  That's board-specific
and non-static.


>  But I'm not arguing about the pin (hardware) setup code.

That's good, since I don't think there's a Grand Scheme that
can be agreed to in that space, either for boot time setup
or runtime reconfiguration.  The hardware varies too much.

- Dave

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-11-28 21:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-10-15 18:14 [PATCH 0/6] Generic PWM API implementation Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 1/6] [PWM] " Bill Gatliff
2008-10-17 15:59   ` Mike Frysinger
2008-11-04 20:16     ` Bill Gatliff
2008-11-04 20:51       ` Mike Frysinger
2008-11-04 23:55       ` David Brownell
2008-11-05  0:17         ` Mike Frysinger
2008-11-05  2:59           ` Bill Gatliff
2008-11-05  5:08           ` David Brownell
2008-11-05  2:56         ` Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 2/6] [PWM] Changes to existing include/linux/pwm.h to adapt to generic PWM API Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 3/6] [PWM] Documentation Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 4/6] [PWM] Driver for Atmel PWMC peripheral Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 5/6] [PWM] Install new Atmel PWMC driver in Kconfig, expunge old one Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 6/6] [PWM] New LED driver and trigger that use PWM API Bill Gatliff
2009-11-13 19:08 ` [PATCH 0/6] Generic PWM API implementation Grant Likely
2009-11-14  4:22   ` Mike Frysinger
2009-11-14  7:55     ` Grant Likely
2009-11-17  7:47       ` David Brownell
2009-11-17 15:48         ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-17 16:53           ` David Brownell
2009-11-20 22:51             ` Grant Likely
2009-11-20 22:14         ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 14:12           ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-23 17:39             ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 20:51               ` Albrecht Dreß
2009-11-28 21:38               ` David Brownell [this message]
2009-11-28 21:59               ` David Brownell
2009-11-17 15:45       ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-17  8:27   ` David Brownell
2009-11-17 15:54     ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-20 22:21     ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 14:13       ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-23 17:40         ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 15:29       ` Mark Brown
2009-11-23 17:44         ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 18:09           ` Mark Brown
2009-11-28 21:54             ` David Brownell
2009-11-17 15:39   ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-20 22:49     ` Grant Likely
2009-11-28 21:28       ` David Brownell

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