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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_PM altogether, enable power management all the time
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2011 13:21:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110208122159.GA8284@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201102072215.59921.rjw@sisk.pl>


* Rafael J. Wysocki <rjw@sisk.pl> wrote:

> I'd appreciate it if people could review/test it and drop their comments.
> 
> Thanks,
> Rafael
> 
> ---
>  arch/x86/xen/Kconfig               |    2 +-
>  drivers/acpi/Kconfig               |    1 -
>  drivers/acpi/bus.c                 |    4 +---
>  drivers/acpi/internal.h            |    6 ++++++
>  drivers/acpi/sleep.c               |   13 +++++++++++--
>  drivers/base/power/Makefile        |    3 +--
>  drivers/net/e1000e/netdev.c        |    8 ++++----
>  drivers/net/pch_gbe/pch_gbe_main.c |    2 +-
>  drivers/pci/pci-driver.c           |    4 ++--
>  drivers/scsi/Makefile              |    2 +-
>  drivers/scsi/scsi_priv.h           |    2 +-
>  drivers/scsi/scsi_sysfs.c          |    2 +-
>  drivers/usb/core/hcd-pci.c         |    4 ++--
>  include/acpi/acpi_bus.h            |    2 +-
>  include/linux/pm.h                 |    2 +-
>  kernel/power/Kconfig               |   29 +++--------------------------
>  16 files changed, 37 insertions(+), 49 deletions(-)

Ok, there's some real bang for bucks in this patch, nice! It's a beginning.

Reviewed-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>

Also, i've Cc:-ed Linus, to check whether the idea to make power management a 
permanent, core portion of Linux has any obvious downsides we missed.

Rafael, could you do a defconfig-ish x86 build with and without CONFIG_PM, and post 
the 'size vmlinux' comparison - so that we can see the size difference? We make some 
things CONFIG_EXPERT configurable just to enable folks who *really* want to cut down 
on kernel size to configure it out.

Note that those usecases, even if they want a super-small kernel, might not care 
about PM at all while they care about size: small boot kernels in ROMs, or simple 
devices where CPU-idling implies deep low power mode, etc.

So the vmlinux size comparisons would be needed really. If it's 5k nobody will care. 
If it's 50k-100k that's borderline. In the other side of the scale we have the 1500+
#ifdef CONFIG_PM lines strewn around the kernel source, and the frequent !PM build
breakages.

	Ingo

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-02-08 12:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-02-07 12:22 [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users Mark Brown
2011-02-07 12:40 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 13:26   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 12:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-07 13:09   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:13 ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:18   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 14:44     ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 14:50       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:00         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2011-02-07 15:10           ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:19             ` Stephen Rothwell
2011-02-07 15:21               ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 15:36                 ` Alan Stern
2011-02-07 15:49                   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:16                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08  1:17                     ` Ray Lee
2011-02-08 11:18                       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:14 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 19:30   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 19:46     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 20:18       ` Mark Brown
2011-02-07 21:15         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 21:47           ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-07 22:00             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-07 22:23               ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-07 23:05                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08  0:50                   ` Dmitry Torokhov
2011-02-08  9:23                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 16:48                   ` Paul Mundt
2011-02-08 12:12           ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 12:21           ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-02-08 21:18             ` [PATCH 0/5] Re: Remove CONFIG_PM altogether, enable power management all the time Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:20               ` [PATCH 1/5] ACPI / PM: Move references to pm_flags into sleep.c Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:40                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-09  0:37                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09  1:04                     ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-08 21:21               ` [PATCH 2/5] PM: Make CONFIG_PM depend on (CONFIG_PM_SLEEP || CONFIG_PM_RUNTIME) Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:21               ` [PATCH 3/5] PM: Reorder power management Kconfig options Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:22               ` [PATCH 4/5] PM: Replace CONFIG_PM_OPS with CONFIG_PM Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 21:23               ` [PATCH 5/5] PM: Clean up Kconfig dependencies Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:43                 ` Linus Torvalds
2011-02-10 23:32                 ` [Updated][PATCH 5/5] PM: Clean up PM_TRACE dependencies and drop unnecessary Kconfig option Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-08 23:35             ` [PATCH] Remove CONFIG_PM altogether, enable power management all the time Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 11:41               ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 11:58                 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 17:07                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2011-02-09 18:31                   ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 18:40                     ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:00                       ` Frank Rowand
2011-02-09 19:25                         ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 19:53                           ` Tim Bird
2011-02-09 19:59                             ` Mark Brown
2011-02-09 20:09                               ` Alan Stern
2011-02-09 20:10                                 ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 23:35             ` Tim Bird
2011-02-09  2:41               ` Ingo Molnar
2011-02-08  2:52 ` [PATCH] PM: Hide CONFIG_PM from users Frank Rowand
2011-02-08 14:15   ` Mark Brown
2011-02-08 14:29 ` Pavel Machek

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