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From: David Brown <davidb@codeaurora.org>
To: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
Cc: linux-embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de>, Brian Swetland <swetland@google.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: android logger feedback request
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2011 16:59:56 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111222005956.GA4862@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EF264C3.6000104@am.sony.com>

On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 02:59:15PM -0800, Tim Bird wrote:

> In Android, this system uses a fixed set of device nodes with
> well-known names: /dev/log/main, /dev/log/events, /dev/log/radio
> and /dev/log/system.

These names seem very specific to Android's use case.  Would we want
the mechanism to be more general, or configurable, so that another
embedded-type system would be able to have their own log types.

But, the biggest question I have is to understand why this is a kernel
driver.  In essence, it is just shuttling data from various processes
to something that eventually needs to read that data.  In other words,
it is doing a subset of what syslog does.  If the concern is about a
userspace program crashing, wouldn't the userspace tool that reads
this data also be able to crash?

The driver clearly has no kernel API, since it exports no symbols.  I
could see more of an argument for it if certain kernel things were
able to write to the log, but then we are also duplicating other
functionality.

David

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-12-22  0:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-12-21 22:59 RFC: android logger feedback request Tim Bird
2011-12-21 23:19 ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  0:18   ` john stultz
2011-12-22  0:27     ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  0:47       ` john stultz
2011-12-22  1:09         ` john stultz
2011-12-22  0:42     ` Tim Bird
2011-12-22  0:49       ` john stultz
2011-12-22  1:00         ` john stultz
2011-12-22  0:36   ` Tim Bird
2011-12-22  0:51     ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  1:32       ` Tim Bird
2011-12-22  1:47         ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  2:12           ` Tim Bird
2011-12-22  3:44             ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  3:45             ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  3:47             ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  4:12               ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  4:22                 ` Brian Swetland
2011-12-22  4:43                   ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  4:47                   ` david
2011-12-22  4:58                     ` Brian Swetland
2011-12-22  5:07                       ` david
2011-12-22  5:21                       ` david
2011-12-22 13:40                   ` Lennart Poettering
2011-12-22  4:49                 ` david
2011-12-22  2:34           ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  1:20     ` NeilBrown
2011-12-22  1:49       ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  2:14       ` Tim Bird
2011-12-22  2:34       ` Brian Swetland
2011-12-22  3:49         ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  4:36           ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  5:01         ` david
2011-12-22  4:52       ` david
2011-12-22  5:06         ` Brian Swetland
2011-12-22  5:14           ` david
2011-12-22  5:25             ` Brian Swetland
2011-12-22  6:09               ` Greg KH
2011-12-23 15:22                 ` Alan Cox
2011-12-23 16:29                   ` Greg KH
2011-12-22  7:05           ` NeilBrown
2012-01-06 20:56             ` Tim Bird
2012-01-06 21:20               ` Greg KH
2012-01-06 22:41                 ` Tim Bird
2012-01-06 23:17                   ` Greg KH
2012-01-06 23:35                   ` Greg KH
2011-12-22 14:59       ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-12-22 15:13         ` Kay Sievers
2011-12-22  4:42     ` david
2011-12-22  0:59 ` David Brown [this message]
2011-12-29  0:39 ` Andrew Morton
2012-01-04 15:34   ` Geunsik Lim

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