From: Marco Stornelli <marco.stornelli@gmail.com>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>, Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
Linux Embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel Walker <dwalker@soe.ucsc.edu>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/14] Pramfs: Persistent and protected ram filesystem
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 08:32:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2ea1731b0906242332n305a8ebbgf37b259171741ea8@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090624174700.GI14121@shareable.org>
2009/6/24 Jamie Lokier <jamie@shareable.org>:
> Pavel Machek wrote:
>> On Tue 2009-06-23 20:07:23, Marco wrote:
>> > You are talked about journaling. This schema works well for a disk, but
>> > what about a piece of ram? What about a crazy kernel that write in that
>> > area for a bug? Do you remember for example the e1000e bug? It's not
>>
>> I believe you need both journaling *and* write protection. How do you
>> handle power fault while writing data?
>
> I think this is basically right.
>
> write protection for the crazy kernels, and journalling for
> powerfail/crash during updates.
>
> Journalling can be extremely simple. It can be just one memory block
> at a fixed location, double-buffering all writes.
>
> Pramfs already has checksums, which makes that easier. You just write
> to the buffer area first, with checksum, then write to the final area.
> Mount looks at the buffer area, and if the checksum is fine, copies
> the contents to the destination block.
>
> That's all it takes to be resistant against power failures and crashes
> during writes. Probably <100 lines of code.
>
> -- Jamie
>
It seems a reasonable request.
Marco
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-06-25 6:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-06-13 13:20 [PATCH 00/14] Pramfs: Persistent and protected ram filesystem Marco
2009-06-13 13:41 ` Daniel Walker
2009-06-13 15:59 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-14 7:15 ` Marco
2009-06-14 11:08 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-06-15 15:51 ` Bryan Henderson
2009-06-15 17:42 ` Marco
2009-06-14 11:46 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-14 16:04 ` Marco
2009-06-16 15:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-16 19:15 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 6:44 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-26 11:30 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-26 16:56 ` Marco
2009-06-24 14:21 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21 6:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-21 17:34 ` Marco
2009-06-21 20:52 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 6:33 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-22 17:20 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 17:31 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 17:37 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 18:07 ` Marco
2009-06-22 20:40 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-06-22 20:40 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 21:50 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 21:57 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 22:38 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 23:26 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-23 1:42 ` David VomLehn
2009-06-23 18:07 ` Marco
2009-06-23 18:29 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 17:47 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-25 6:32 ` Marco Stornelli [this message]
2009-06-22 18:55 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 21:02 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-22 22:02 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-22 18:08 ` Marco
2009-06-15 17:15 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-15 17:44 ` Marco
2009-06-15 17:58 ` Tim Bird
2009-06-17 18:32 ` Chris Friesen
2009-06-18 6:35 ` Marco Stornelli
[not found] <4a4254e2.09c5660a.109d.46f8@mx.google.com>
2009-06-24 16:49 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:38 ` Marco
2009-06-24 17:59 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-25 6:30 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-28 8:59 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-28 16:44 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-06-28 17:33 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-07-09 23:42 ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-24 17:46 ` Pavel Machek
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