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From: Marco Stornelli <marco.stornelli@gmail.com>
To: dedekind1@gmail.com
Cc: Simon Kagstrom <simon.kagstrom@netinsight.net>,
	David VomLehn <dvomlehn@cisco.com>,
	linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	dwm2@infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	mpm@selenic.com, paul.gortmaker@windriver.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH, RFC] panic-note: Annotation from user space for panics
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 13:45:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2ea1731b0911170445x13225c19w797388d2211de2d9@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1258447997.27437.76.camel@localhost>

2009/11/17 Artem Bityutskiy <dedekind1@gmail.com>:
> Take a look at my mails where I describe different complications we have
> in our system. We really want to have an OOPS/panic + our environment
> stuff to go together, at once. This makes things so much simpler.
>
> Really, what is the problem providing this trivial panic-note
> capability, where user-space can give the kernel a small buffer, and ask
> the kernel to print this buffer at the oops/panic time. Very simple and
> elegant, and just solves the problem.
>
> Why perversions with time-stamps, separate storages are needed?
>
> IOW, you suggest a complicated approach, and demand explaining why we do
> not go for it. Simply because it is unnecessarily complex.

I don't think it's a complicated approach we are talking of a system
log like syslog with a temporal information, nothing more.

> This patch solves the problem gracefully, and I'd rather demand you to point what
> is the technical problem with the patches.
>

Simply because I think that we should avoid to include in the kernel
things we can do in a simply way at user space level. I think this
patch is well done but it's one of the patches that are solutions "for
embedded only", but it's only my opinion.

Marco

  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-17 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-12  2:13 [PATCH, RFC] panic-note: Annotation from user space for panics David VomLehn
2009-11-12 18:00 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-11-12 21:56   ` David VomLehn
2009-11-13  8:10     ` Simon Kagstrom
2009-11-13 11:45       ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-13 11:59         ` Simon Kagstrom
2009-11-13 14:16           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-14  8:28         ` Marco Stornelli
2009-11-17  8:53           ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-17 12:45             ` Marco Stornelli [this message]
2009-11-17 13:10               ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-17 15:45                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-17 23:56                   ` David VomLehn
2009-11-18  0:28                     ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-18  0:53                       ` David VomLehn
2009-11-18  9:01                         ` Américo Wang
2009-11-18 17:01                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-18  0:56                       ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-18 16:07                         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-18 17:52                           ` Tim Bird
2009-11-18 18:16                             ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-11-18  8:26                   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-17 17:53                 ` Marco Stornelli
2009-11-12 18:06 ` Matt Mackall
2009-11-12 21:58   ` David VomLehn
2009-11-13 11:35   ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-12 19:50 ` Paul Gortmaker
2009-11-12 22:09   ` David VomLehn
2009-11-13 11:50     ` Shargorodsky Atal (EXT-Teleca/Helsinki)
2009-11-13 11:26 ` Artem Bityutskiy
2009-11-17  9:03 ` Artem Bityutskiy

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