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From: Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@codefidence.com>
To: Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>
Cc: linux-embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Recommendation for activating a deferred module init in the kernel
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 10:08:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <485DFA81.6010600@codefidence.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <485A9E61.6060707@am.sony.com>

Tim Bird wrote:

> Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
>   
>> Well, seeing as both modprobe and a minimal shell are part of busybox
>> which is included in over 90%+ of Linux based embedded systems and that
>> the script is trivial, not to mention that you can just have the
>> application call modprobe directly, just as it will be calling ioctl()
>> in your case, thereby negating the need for both script and shell at
>> all, I do believe that complexity wise my solution still has some merit.
>>     
>
> I agree.  When you say "have the application call modprobe directly",
> I'm not sure I understand what you mean.  Are you talking about a call
> to the kernel (a syscall) or a library function?  The kernel has the
> syscall sys_init_module(), which I'm considering using.  Is there some
> mobprobe library call that might make sense to use?
>
>   
I simply meant that you can fork and exec modprobe itself (or use 
system() but that
would require a working shell). This would "save" the need for a 
separate script and a shell.

I guess "invoking" would have been more suitable word then "calling".

The only downside I see of calling the sys_init_module syscall directly 
is that it
doesn't do any of the dependency tracking that modprobe does, so it's more
a insmod replacement then a modprobe one, but I doubt this matters at 
all in an
embedded system anyway.


Do people here think a shared library implementing modprobe would be 
useful?

I ran into such a need a couple of times myself and does not look 
difficult to do, but does
anyone else here thinks it will be useful?

Gilad

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-22  7:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-17 18:23 Recommendation for activating a deferred module init in the kernel Tim Bird
2008-06-17 18:51 ` David VomLehn
2008-06-17 19:07 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-17 19:22   ` Jim Freeman
2008-06-17 20:06     ` Tim Bird
2008-06-17 19:52   ` Tim Bird
2008-06-17 19:55     ` Tim Bird
2008-06-17 20:23       ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-17 20:35         ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-17 22:48           ` Stefan Richter
2008-06-18  0:03             ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-06-18  0:10               ` Stefan Richter
2008-06-18  9:38                 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-06-17 20:19     ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-18 12:38 ` Amol Lad
     [not found] ` <4858A659.8030502@codefidence.com>
2008-06-18 16:08   ` Tim Bird
     [not found]     ` <4859ECF3.3000500@codefidence.com>
2008-06-19 17:58       ` Tim Bird
2008-06-22  7:08         ` Gilad Ben-Yossef [this message]
2008-06-23 17:40           ` Tim Bird
2008-07-01 14:20             ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-06-18  6:47 Gilad Ben-Yossef
2008-06-18  8:20 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-18  8:32   ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-18  8:52   ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-18  8:57     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-18  9:59       ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-18 10:33         ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-18 10:41           ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-18 11:37           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-18 14:56             ` Nicolas Pitre

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