From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>
Cc: Embedded Linux mailing list <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>,
Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>, Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: PATCH [0/3]: Simplify the kernel build by removing perl.
Date: Fri, 02 Jan 2009 11:27:45 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <495E6AB1.2060707@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090102180134.GB5818@uranus.ravnborg.org>
Sam Ravnborg wrote:
> Hi Wookey.
>
>> Given the
>> simplicitly of these patches I can't see any reason not to put them
>> in
>
> Please do NOT do the mistake and think this the same thing.
>
> Rob's patch simplyfy the timecost stuff - and will be applied on
> this merit alone assuming comments will be addressed.
>
> But the serie rased anohter topic: shall we ban use of perl
> for generating a kernel.
> And this is what primary is discussed and the outcome of
> that discussion will not prevent patches that stands on their
> own to be applied.
>
My personal opinion on this is that this is ridiculous. Given that you
need gcc, binutils, make etc. to build the kernel, and this is more than
inherent, you have to have a pretty bloody strangely constrained system
to disallow Perl, which is as close to a standard Unix utility you can
get without making it into SuS.
The only *real* motivation I have seen for this is a system that as far
I can tell is nothing other than a toy, specifically designed to show
off how little you need to build the kernel. In other words, it's not a
practical application, it's a show-off art piece.
-hpa
--
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel. I don't speak on their behalf.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-01-02 19:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 129+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-01-02 8:07 PATCH [0/3]: Simplify the kernel build by removing perl Rob Landley
2009-01-02 8:13 ` [PATCH 1/3]: Replace kernel/timeconst.pl with kernel/timeconst.sh Rob Landley
2009-01-02 9:04 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-02 12:00 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-02 19:33 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-04 1:32 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 1:35 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-04 12:07 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-04 18:36 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-04 19:03 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 20:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-05 0:59 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-03 6:28 ` Harvey Harrison
2009-01-03 12:28 ` Ingo Oeser
2009-01-04 1:36 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 5:07 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-04 6:43 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 22:13 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-05 0:15 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-01-05 2:23 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-05 10:46 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-01-05 15:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-05 16:18 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-01-06 0:06 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-05 21:07 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-05 4:50 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-05 12:29 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-01-04 21:51 ` Alejandro Mery
2009-01-04 7:15 ` Michal Jaegermann
2009-01-05 0:41 ` Ray Lee
2009-01-05 5:08 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-02 8:14 ` [PATCH 2/3]: Remove perl from make headers_install Rob Landley
2009-01-02 9:09 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-02 8:15 ` [PATCH 3/3]: Convert mkcapflags.pl to mkcapflags.sh Rob Landley
2009-01-02 9:12 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-02 9:26 ` PATCH [0/3]: Simplify the kernel build by removing perl Arkadiusz Miskiewicz
2009-01-02 9:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-01-02 10:16 ` Alejandro Mery
2009-01-02 10:30 ` Mark Miller
2009-01-02 11:18 ` Matt Keenan
2009-01-02 10:41 ` Måns Rullgård
2009-01-15 12:59 ` Pádraig Brady
2009-01-15 18:52 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-15 19:45 ` Måns Rullgård
2009-01-02 11:15 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-02 11:44 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-02 12:56 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-02 14:04 ` Theodore Tso
2009-01-03 3:22 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-04 2:23 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-02 10:02 ` Mark Miller
2009-01-02 10:03 ` Mark Miller
2009-01-02 11:13 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-02 16:04 ` Matthieu CASTET
2009-01-03 19:46 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-03 20:10 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-03 20:50 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-04 1:47 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 1:45 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 8:09 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-04 20:19 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 0:44 ` Robert Hancock
2009-01-04 1:39 ` David Brownell
2009-01-04 3:05 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 1:32 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-02 9:50 ` Paul Mundt
2009-01-02 10:32 ` Mark Miller
2009-01-02 10:57 ` Paul Mundt
2009-01-02 12:11 ` Mark Miller
2009-01-02 12:44 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-02 17:25 ` Wookey
2009-01-02 18:01 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-02 19:27 ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2009-01-04 1:35 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-03 19:48 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-08 13:13 ` klaasjan gm
2009-01-08 15:04 ` Christian Gagneraud
2009-01-03 14:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
2009-01-03 22:54 ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-01-03 23:03 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-04 0:37 ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-01-04 2:53 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 3:38 ` Markus Heidelberg
2009-01-04 4:57 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 2:06 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 2:14 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-04 6:29 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-15 14:32 ` Pádraig Brady
2009-01-04 2:36 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-04 2:39 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-04 2:43 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-04 3:06 ` Paul Mundt
2009-01-04 10:23 ` Leon Woestenberg
2009-01-08 13:29 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-01-11 12:45 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2009-01-12 3:36 ` Mark A. Miller
2009-01-12 5:11 ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-01-12 5:23 ` Mark A. Miller
2009-01-12 8:20 ` Paul Mundt
2009-01-12 9:18 ` Mark A. Miller
2009-01-12 9:41 ` Paul Mundt
2009-01-12 10:03 ` Mark A. Miller
2009-01-12 10:34 ` Paul Mundt
2009-01-12 17:56 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-12 18:04 ` Alan Cox
2009-01-12 8:27 ` Peter Korsgaard
2009-01-12 17:45 ` Rob Landley
[not found] ` <31014a580901111928u586e2246uccf370ff941c8a01@mail.gmail.com>
2009-01-12 5:35 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-12 5:50 ` Mark A. Miller
2009-01-12 10:18 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-01-12 10:22 ` Mark A. Miller
2009-01-12 10:44 ` Alexander Neundorf
2009-01-12 10:55 ` Mark A. Miller
2009-01-12 11:04 ` Alexander Neundorf
2009-01-12 10:38 ` Paul Mundt
2009-01-14 2:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-16 6:11 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-16 7:28 ` Alexander Neundorf
2009-01-16 14:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2009-01-16 21:54 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-17 9:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-01-18 1:44 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 16:22 ` Vladimir Dronnikov
2009-01-04 1:24 ` PATCH [0/3]: Simplify the kernel build by removing perl v2 Rob Landley
2009-01-04 1:27 ` PATCH [1/3]: Replace kernel/timeconst.pl with kernel/timeconst.sh (v2) Rob Landley
2009-01-04 2:48 ` David Vrabel
2009-01-04 20:21 ` Rob Landley
2009-01-04 1:28 ` PATCH [2/3]: Remove perl from make headers_install Rob Landley
2009-01-04 1:29 ` PATCH [3/3]: Convert kernel/cpu/mkcapflags.pl to kernel/cpu/mkcapflags.sh Rob Landley
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