From: Adrian Hunter <adrian.hunter@nokia.com>
To: Matt Fleming <matt@console-pimps.org>
Cc: Pierre Ossman <pierre@ossman.eu>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
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HaraldWelte@viate
Subject: Re: New MMC maintainer needed
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 10:01:57 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A83BA65.1080608@nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090811140223.GA4278@console-pimps.org>
Matt Fleming wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 03, 2009 at 02:13:28PM +0300, Adrian Hunter wrote:
>> Pierre Ossman wrote:
>>> Con:
>>>
>>> - The scanning code gets less clear as you increase the number of
>>> possible paths through it.
>>>
>>> - Different systems will have different init sequences, possibly
>>> provoking bugs in the cards.
>>>
>>> - Host driver writers now have more capability bits they have to
>>> consider. And these might be less than obvious since SD/MMC/SDIO are
>>> normally compatible so these bits seem useless.
>>>
>>> - With the current logic (which was better in the first version),
>>> "normal" drivers will have to explicitly state that they work as
>>> intended by setting all bits.
>> And the pro is objective.
>>
>>> Pro:
>>>
>>> - A slightly reduced scanning time.
>> That's great! Why do you disregard this so easily?
>>
>
> Ping. Adrian, do you have any initialisation times for this patch? I'm
> afraid I don't have any eMMC hardware, so I'm not able to gather any
> numbers.
>
Sorry for the slow reply.
Results in microseconds:
before after
eMMC 194145 193641
uSD 4143 2129
However, that excludes powering up. For example the pbias setting
on omap_hsmmc for MMC1 (uSD for us) has a 100ms delay.
So the difference is negligible.
Although, the notion of unnecessarily sending SDIO commands
to an uSD, and SDIO and SD commands to an eMMC, seems wrong.
Especially when trying to debug very-hard-to-reproduce errors.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-13 7:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-07-14 13:36 New MMC maintainer needed Pierre Ossman
2009-07-14 21:04 ` Ian Molton
2009-07-22 22:17 ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-23 0:08 ` Ian Molton
2009-07-23 5:54 ` Matt Fleming
2009-07-23 6:22 ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-23 6:42 ` Paul Mundt
2009-07-23 6:50 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2009-07-23 13:52 ` Matt Fleming
2009-07-24 22:29 ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-27 6:06 ` Philip Langdale
2009-07-27 12:09 ` David Vrabel
2009-07-27 21:40 ` Matt Fleming
2009-07-28 0:52 ` Philip Langdale
2009-07-28 12:51 ` David Vrabel
2009-07-23 7:01 ` Adrian Hunter
2009-07-23 7:25 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-07-23 7:32 ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-23 7:38 ` Stephen Rothwell
2009-07-23 16:29 ` Andi Kleen
2009-07-23 10:57 ` Roberto A. Foglietta
2009-07-28 20:22 ` Pierre Ossman
2009-07-30 2:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2009-07-28 20:20 ` Pierre Ossman
2009-07-28 21:14 ` Ian Molton
2009-07-28 22:41 ` Andrew Morton
2009-07-29 6:35 ` Sam Ravnborg
2009-07-29 10:35 ` Ian Molton
2009-07-28 20:23 ` Pierre Ossman
2009-07-31 10:26 ` Pierre Ossman
2009-07-31 10:54 ` Matt Fleming
2009-08-03 10:34 ` Pierre Ossman
2009-08-03 11:10 ` Matt Fleming
2009-08-03 11:13 ` Adrian Hunter
2009-08-03 21:41 ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-11 14:02 ` Matt Fleming
2009-08-12 22:27 ` Andrew Morton
2009-08-13 8:21 ` Matt Fleming
2009-08-13 7:01 ` Adrian Hunter [this message]
2009-08-13 17:03 ` Nicolas Pitre
2009-08-04 1:51 ` David Brownell
2009-08-05 1:42 ` David VomLehn
2009-08-06 8:54 ` Pierre Ossman
2009-08-18 9:33 ` Nicolas Ferre
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-07-15 4:59 Alex Dubov
2009-07-31 13:36 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-08-01 6:53 ` Alex Dubov
2009-08-01 7:21 ` Maxim Levitsky
2009-08-12 22:52 ellis
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