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From: Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] detour TTY driver - now ttyprintk
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 2010 09:48:23 +0200
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Cc: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>, Samo Pogacnik <samo_pogacnik@t-2.net>, linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, linux-embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>

On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 09:40, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org> wrote=
:
> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 01:12, Greg KH <gregkh@suse.de> wrote:
>> On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:22:21AM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
>>> > No, it does cover that. =C2=A0You should be able to do that with =
a simple
>>> > console redirection to /dev/kmsg =C2=A0What happened when you tri=
ed to do
>>> > that?
>>>
>>> stty: standard input: Inappropriate ioctl for device
>>
>> Kay, how does systemd handle the kmsg console redirection?
>
> Systemd does not steal the console, this is done by plymouth, in the
> same way blogd can do that. It uses a pty and rewrites the messages.
>
> Systemd does pass syslog to the kernel buffer during early boot. Init
> provides /dev/log. With systemd, the started services usually don't
> get the console connected, but use syslog anyway or the stdout/err
> gets redirected to syslog.
>
> With systemd the console is not too useful because we start everythin=
g
> in parallel. If all the services would put out stuff there like sysv
> did, it would look like a real mess.

Or isn't that what you asked for? We just write the stuff that arrives
at syslog to /dev/kmsg to put things in the kernel log buffer.

Also initrds are usually using
  exec < /dev/console > /dev/kmsg 2>&1
to get stuff directly to the kernel buffer.

What does /dev/ttyprintk offer on top of that?

Kay