From: Geert Uytterhoeven <Geert.Uytterhoeven@sonycom.com>
To: Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
Gilad Ben-Yossef <gilad@codefidence.com>,
Tim Bird <tim.bird@am.sony.com>,
linux-embedded <linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Recommendation for activating a deferred module init in the kernel
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:57:22 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0806181056300.13297@vixen.sonytel.be> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080618085233.GP25911@cs181133002.pp.htv.fi>
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On Wed, 18 Jun 2008, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 09:20:22AM +0100, David Woodhouse wrote:
> > On Wed, 2008-06-18 at 09:47 +0300, Gilad Ben-Yossef wrote:
> > > This may sound like a stupid question, but why are you compiling the
> > > modules statically?
> >
> > I wondered that.
> >
> > One potential reason to avoid modules is that they waste RAM -- you have
> > to allocate an integral number of pages for each one, which means an
> > average of 2KiB wasted for each module you load. Although that isn't
> > much, it's not zero either. It might be possible to optimise that by
> > 'packing' module allocations, if you're careful about it.
> >...
> > So the only real reason I can see to avoid modules in the _current_
> > kernel would be the wasted RAM, which should be something we can
> > address.
> >...
>
> You miss the size increase imposed by CONFIG_MODULES=y.
>
> E.g. setting CONFIG_MODULES=y in the arm collie_defconfig will
> increase the size of vmlinux by 14% (sic).
>
> I haven't investigated why it takes that much space, but stuff like
> kernel/module.o taking 23kB and each EXPORT_SYMBOL requiring a few
> bytes simply cannot be completely eliminated.
Sounds like we need a tool that strips out the unneeded symbols, given a list
of modules?
With kind regards,
Geert Uytterhoeven
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-06-18 8:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-06-18 6:47 Recommendation for activating a deferred module init in the kernel Gilad Ben-Yossef
2008-06-18 8:20 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-18 8:32 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-18 8:52 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-18 8:57 ` Geert Uytterhoeven [this message]
2008-06-18 9:59 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-18 10:33 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-06-18 10:41 ` David Woodhouse
2008-06-18 11:37 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2008-06-18 14:56 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2008-06-17 18:23 Tim Bird
2008-06-17 18:51 ` David VomLehn
2008-06-17 19:07 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-17 19:22 ` Jim Freeman
2008-06-17 20:06 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-17 19:52 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-17 19:55 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-17 20:23 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-17 20:35 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-17 22:48 ` Stefan Richter
2008-06-18 0:03 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-06-18 0:10 ` Stefan Richter
2008-06-18 9:38 ` Johannes Stezenbach
2008-06-17 20:19 ` Jörn Engel
2008-06-18 12:38 ` Amol Lad
[not found] ` <4858A659.8030502@codefidence.com>
2008-06-18 16:08 ` Tim Bird
[not found] ` <4859ECF3.3000500@codefidence.com>
2008-06-19 17:58 ` Tim Bird
2008-06-22 7:08 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
2008-06-23 17:40 ` Tim Bird
2008-07-01 14:20 ` Gilad Ben-Yossef
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