From: Linus Torvalds <torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
To: Jamie Lokier <jamie-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmalloc.c - bisected
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 12:18:53 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261212530.3363@nehalem.linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080826190213.GA30255-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, 26 Aug 2008, Jamie Lokier wrote:
>
> A function which is only called from one place should, if everything
> made sense, _never_ use more stack through being inlined.
But that's simply not true.
See the whole discussion.
The problem is that if you inline that function, the stack usage of the
newly inlined function is now added to ALL THE OTHER paths too!
So the case we had in module loading was that yes, we had a function with
a big stack footprint, but it was NOT in the deep path.
But by inlining it, it now moved the stack footprint "up" one level to
another function, and now the big stack footprint really _was_ in the deep
path, because the caller was involved in a much deeper chain.
So inlining moves the code up the callchain, and that is a problem for the
backtrace, but that's "just" a debugging issue. But it also moves the
stack footprint up the callchain, and that can actually be a correctness
issue.
Of course, a compiler doesn't _have_ to do that. A compiler _could_ have
multiple different stack footprints for a single function, and do liveness
analysis etc. But no sane compiler probably does that, because it's very
painful indeed, and it's not even an issue if you aren't stack-limited
(and being stack-limited is really just a kernel thing).
(Yeah, it can be an issue even if you have a big stack, in that you get
worse cache behaviour, so a dense stack footprint _would_ help. But the
complexity of stack liveness analysis is almost certainly not worth the
relatively small gains it would get on some odd cases).
Linus
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-26 19:18 UTC|newest]
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[not found] ` <200808261111.19205.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261019450.3363@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
2008-08-26 18:30 ` [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmalloc.c - bisected Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <20080826183051.GB10925-re2QNgSbS3j4D6uPqz5PAwR5/fbUUdgG@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 18:40 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261134530.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 20:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-26 20:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-27 16:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-26 19:02 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20080826190213.GA30255-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds [this message]
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2008-08-26 20:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-26 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261403360.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 22:54 ` Parag Warudkar
[not found] ` <f7848160808261554j2f4eaaa6i1ee8801ae75ca7bf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 23:00 ` David VomLehn
2008-08-26 23:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-26 23:47 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261644260.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 0:53 ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-27 1:08 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-08-27 1:31 ` Greg Ungerer
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2008-08-27 2:16 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-08-27 8:44 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-08-27 0:58 ` Parag Warudkar
[not found] ` <f7848160808261758q7b84aab1m188c1ebb59304818-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 1:49 ` Linus Torvalds
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2008-08-27 2:36 ` Parag Warudkar
[not found] ` <f7848160808261936m18c69dc0r26f41850efae4b91-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 2:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-27 8:32 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-27 6:01 ` Paul Mackerras
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2008-08-27 10:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-27 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-27 11:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-27 9:00 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
[not found] ` <1219827609.30209.29.camel-7sPfb3biEqGJZy4MaDjwDw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 12:56 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-08-27 13:17 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
[not found] ` <1219843032.30209.51.camel-7sPfb3biEqGJZy4MaDjwDw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 15:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-27 16:38 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
[not found] ` <1219855121.30209.112.camel-7sPfb3biEqGJZy4MaDjwDw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 17:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-27 19:30 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-08-28 0:06 ` Greg Ungerer
[not found] ` <20080827154805.GA25387-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-28 0:11 ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-27 8:34 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-08-26 23:24 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <20080826232411.GC11734-re2QNgSbS3j4D6uPqz5PAwR5/fbUUdgG@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261648140.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 0:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-27 0:28 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261726560.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 11:58 ` Adrian Bunk
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2008-08-27 16:00 ` Paul Mundt
2008-08-27 17:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-28 0:32 ` Paul Mundt
2008-08-28 0:46 ` David Miller
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2008-08-28 1:02 ` Paul Mundt
2008-08-28 16:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-28 1:05 ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-27 8:25 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-27 12:52 ` Parag Warudkar
[not found] ` <f7848160808270552u2ee66167x912a68e0bf8b25bf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 13:21 ` Alan Cox
[not found] ` <20080827142142.303cdba8-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 16:24 ` Parag Warudkar
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