From: "Parag Warudkar" <parag.lkml-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Linus Torvalds
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Subject: Re: [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmalloc.c - bisected
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:58:15 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f7848160808261758q7b84aab1m188c1ebb59304818@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261644260.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
On Tue, Aug 26, 2008 at 7:47 PM, Linus Torvalds
<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> If that matters, then so should the difference of 3-8 processes' kernel
> stack usage when you have a 4k/8k stack choice.
The savings part -financial ones- are not always realizable with the
way memory is priced/sized/fitted.
Savings in few Mb of Kernel stack are not necessarily going to allow
getting rid of a single memory chip of 64M or so.
Either that or embedded manufacturing/configurations are different
than the desktop world.
(If my device has 2 memory slots and my user space requires 100Mb
including kernel memory - I anyways have to put in 64Mx2 there to take
advantage of mass manufactured, general purpose memory - so no big
deal if I saved 1.2Mb in Kernel stack or not. And savings of 64Mb
Kernel memory are not feasible anyways to allow user space to work
with 64Mb.)
On the other hand reducing user space memory usage on those devices
(not counting savings from kernel stack size) is a way more attractive
option.
And although you said in your later reply that Linux x86 with 4K
stacks should be more than usable - my experiences running a untainted
desktop/file server with 4K stack have been always disastrous XFS or
not. It _might_ work for some well defined workloads but you would
not want to risk 4K stacks otherwise.
I understand the having 4K stack option as a non-default for very
specific workloads is a good idea but apart from that I think no one
else seems to bother with reducing stack sizes (by no one I mean other
OSes.)
Parag
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[not found] ` <48B313E0.1000501@hp.com>
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808251326500.3363@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
[not found] ` <200808261111.19205.rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261019450.3363@nehalem.linux-foundation.org>
2008-08-26 18:30 ` [Bug #11342] Linux 2.6.27-rc3: kernel BUG at mm/vmalloc.c - bisected Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <20080826183051.GB10925-re2QNgSbS3j4D6uPqz5PAwR5/fbUUdgG@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 18:40 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261134530.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 20:21 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-26 20:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-27 16:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26 18:47 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-26 19:02 ` Jamie Lokier
[not found] ` <20080826190213.GA30255-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 19:18 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261144510.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 20:59 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-26 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261403360.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 22:54 ` Parag Warudkar
[not found] ` <f7848160808261554j2f4eaaa6i1ee8801ae75ca7bf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 23:00 ` David VomLehn
2008-08-26 23:45 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-26 23:47 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261644260.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 0:53 ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-27 1:08 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-08-27 1:31 ` Greg Ungerer
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2008-08-27 2:16 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-08-27 8:44 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-08-27 0:58 ` Parag Warudkar [this message]
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2008-08-27 1:49 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261837530.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 2:36 ` Parag Warudkar
[not found] ` <f7848160808261936m18c69dc0r26f41850efae4b91-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 2:52 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-27 8:32 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-27 6:01 ` Paul Mackerras
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2008-08-27 10:58 ` Arjan van de Ven
2008-08-27 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2008-08-27 11:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-27 9:00 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
[not found] ` <1219827609.30209.29.camel-7sPfb3biEqGJZy4MaDjwDw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 12:56 ` Parag Warudkar
2008-08-27 13:17 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
[not found] ` <1219843032.30209.51.camel-7sPfb3biEqGJZy4MaDjwDw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 15:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-27 16:38 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
[not found] ` <1219855121.30209.112.camel-7sPfb3biEqGJZy4MaDjwDw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 17:51 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-27 19:30 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-08-28 0:06 ` Greg Ungerer
[not found] ` <20080827154805.GA25387-yetKDKU6eevNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-28 0:11 ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-27 8:34 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2008-08-26 23:24 ` Adrian Bunk
[not found] ` <20080826232411.GC11734-re2QNgSbS3j4D6uPqz5PAwR5/fbUUdgG@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-26 23:51 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261648140.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 0:23 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-27 0:28 ` Linus Torvalds
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.1.10.0808261726560.3363-nfNrOhbfy2R17+2ddN/4kux8cNe9sq/dYPYVAmT7z5s@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 11:58 ` Adrian Bunk
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2008-08-27 16:00 ` Paul Mundt
2008-08-27 17:35 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-28 0:32 ` Paul Mundt
2008-08-28 0:46 ` David Miller
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2008-08-28 1:02 ` Paul Mundt
2008-08-28 16:16 ` Adrian Bunk
2008-08-28 1:05 ` Greg Ungerer
2008-08-27 8:25 ` Alan Cox
2008-08-27 12:52 ` Parag Warudkar
[not found] ` <f7848160808270552u2ee66167x912a68e0bf8b25bf-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2008-08-27 13:21 ` Alan Cox
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2008-08-27 16:24 ` Parag Warudkar
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