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From: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
To: Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>
Cc: Mike Rapoport <mike@compulab.co.il>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@hansenpartnership.com>,
	ksummit-2009-discuss@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Representing Embedded Architectures at the Kernel Summit
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 10:06:44 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa686aa40906160906i7a05fc77jd1b2b920a1680812@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8bd0f97a0906160106g333eb222idd0d694f452650ff@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Mike Frysinger<vapier.adi@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 02:42, Mike Rapoport wrote:
>> James Bottomley wrote:
>> Another issue that affects embedded architectures is drivers initialization
>> order. There are a lot of cases when you need the drivers to be initialized in
>> particular order, and current initcalls scheme does not allow fine grained
>> control for it.
>
> example: device configuration information stored in i2c eeprom (i.e.
> dimensions of attached framebuffer), but i2c is not available when
> framebuffer layer is setup.  framebuffer driver has to be built as a
> module and loaded by userspace, or i2c information is read by
> bootloader and passed down to the kernel.

I experimented a bit with having some infrastructure for waiting for
another device to get either registered as part of the phylib stuff I
was doing.  Here's the patchwork link to the discussion:

http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/24152/

I never actually pushed through and finished it because it turned out
to be a non-issue for Ethernet devices in the end.  However, I can see
the value.  With this approach, a driver can use a
bus_register_notifier() variant without caring about the device
registration order, and the drivers notifier callback will get called
at the appropriate time.

In your example case I could see the framebuffer driver deferring the
final part of its initialization until the needed i2c device shows up.

g.

-- 
Grant Likely, B.Sc., P.Eng.
Secret Lab Technologies Ltd.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-16 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-02 15:22 Representing Embedded Architectures at the Kernel Summit James Bottomley
2009-06-02 17:29 ` Josh Boyer
2009-06-02 17:42   ` James Bottomley
2009-06-02 17:52     ` David VomLehn
2009-06-02 18:25       ` James Bottomley
2009-06-02 18:51         ` Josh Boyer
2009-06-02 19:30           ` Tim Bird
2009-06-02 20:37             ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] " James Bottomley
2009-06-02 20:44               ` Bill Gatliff
2009-06-02 21:34               ` Robert Schwebel
2009-06-03  3:35                 ` Greg KH
     [not found]                   ` <20090731152617.GW29245@pengutronix.de>
2009-07-31 15:53                     ` flicker free booting Robert Schwebel
2009-07-31 18:03                       ` David VomLehn
2009-07-31 18:09                         ` Robert Schwebel
2009-07-31 18:42                           ` Bill Gatliff
2009-08-03  8:19                             ` Sascha Hauer
2009-08-03  8:37                               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-07-31 18:46                         ` Bill Gatliff
2009-07-31 19:48                           ` Tim Bird
2009-07-31 19:51                             ` Bill Gatliff
2009-07-31 20:05                             ` Robert Schwebel
2009-08-01  1:26                               ` Tim Bird
2009-07-31 19:25                       ` Bill Gatliff
2009-08-01 14:25                         ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-03  0:03               ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] Representing Embedded Architectures at the Kernel Summit David VomLehn
2009-06-03  0:52                 ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-06-03  1:42                 ` Steven Rostedt
2009-06-02 22:21   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-06-03  6:24     ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] " Ralf Baechle
2009-06-10 23:13     ` Kumar Gala
2009-06-14  3:48       ` Grant Likely
2009-06-10 23:08   ` Kumar Gala
2009-06-02 17:29 ` Grant Likely
2009-06-02 17:45   ` David VomLehn
2009-06-02 18:46     ` Grant Likely
2009-06-02 17:48   ` James Bottomley
2009-06-03 12:17     ` Mark Brown
2009-06-04 18:18     ` Grant Likely
2009-06-02 21:10   ` Russell King
2009-06-02 21:16     ` Bill Gatliff
2009-06-02 21:18     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2009-06-02 21:40     ` Robert Schwebel
     [not found]     ` <20090602214005.GL32630@pengutronix.de>
2009-06-02 21:48       ` Russell King
     [not found]     ` <10f740e80906021418i1d58f5eer940e7a8ec9fb8b9e@mail.gmail.com>
2009-06-03  7:07       ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] " Ralf Baechle
2009-06-04 20:08     ` Grant Likely
     [not found]     ` <4A2596B4.3020309@billgatliff.com>
2009-06-04 20:15       ` Grant Likely
     [not found]     ` <3340601010994331832@unknownmsgid>
2009-06-04 20:24       ` Grant Likely
2009-06-03  6:53   ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] " Ralf Baechle
2009-06-03 13:04 ` Catalin Marinas
2009-06-03 13:18   ` Josh Boyer
2009-06-03 13:45     ` Catalin Marinas
2009-06-03 14:11       ` Josh Boyer
2009-06-03 14:06   ` Jean-Christophe PLAGNIOL-VILLARD
2009-06-03 16:19   ` James Bottomley
2009-06-03 17:09     ` Russell King
2009-06-03 18:43       ` Andrew Morton
2009-06-03 19:01         ` James Bottomley
2009-06-04  3:11         ` David VomLehn (dvomlehn)
2009-06-04  3:24           ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-04  9:23           ` Mel Gorman
2009-06-03 19:08     ` Catalin Marinas
2009-06-10  9:42     ` Thomas Petazzoni
2009-06-16  6:42 ` Mike Rapoport
2009-06-16  8:06   ` Mike Frysinger
2009-06-16 12:19     ` [Ksummit-2009-discuss] " Ralf Baechle
2009-06-17  4:26       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-17 15:04         ` Ralf Baechle
2009-06-17 17:14           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-06-16 16:06     ` Grant Likely [this message]
2009-06-16 18:18       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-16 19:28         ` Grant Likely
2009-06-16 20:07           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-06-16 20:10             ` Marcel Holtmann
2009-06-16 21:04             ` Grant Likely
2009-06-18  3:05   ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-17 14:31 ` Kumar Gala
2009-06-18  2:51   ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-19  2:59     ` Kumar Gala
2009-06-19  3:00       ` Paul Mundt
2009-06-19  7:53         ` Kumar Gala

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