From: Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
To: Mark Brown <broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Cc: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
Bill Gatliff <bgat@billgatliff.com>,
linux-embedded@vger.kernel.org,
Mike Frysinger <vapier.adi@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/6] Generic PWM API implementation
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 10:44:25 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fa686aa40911230944o197c732bo2d2e5f0aacd936b7@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091123152943.GC3987@sirena.org.uk>
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Mark Brown
<broonie@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 03:21:31PM -0700, Grant Likely wrote:
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 1:27 AM, David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net> wrote:
>
>> > Since *everything* boils down to one or more signal lines,
>> > your argument leads directly to Linux having no native
>> > hardware interface except GPIOs. ?Not ... practical. ;)
>
>> I think you've missed my point and taken it to an illogical extreme to
>> counter it. I agree that PWMs are not GPIOs and visa versa. However,
>> *some* devices are both GPIOs and PWMs. Also what is needed to manage
>> GPIO and PWM pins is pretty much identical.
>
> On most of the ARM SoCs PWM and GPIO aren't particularly special here -
> most of the on-SoC functionality is multiplexed onto pins through the
> same hardware interface. A very large proportion of the pins of the SoC
> will have muxes to bring out the signals from the internal IP blocks,
> and pretty much all of those will have GPIO as one of those functions.
Right, pin-mux is a different problem. But there are also devices
that implement both PWM and GPIO functionality in the same IP block.
I think pin muxing, and pin controller drivers are different problem
domains and should be handled separately.
>> But that *isn't* the primary purpose of the GPIO subsystem. All that
>> stuff is layered on top of the GPIO pin management code and doesn't
>> really play into this debate.
>
> The GPIO subsystem isn't doing pin management in that way for most
> systems, it's just controlling the GPIO functionality and relies on
> separate configuration to ensure that the relevant pins are in GPIO
> mode.
Sorry. when I said pin management I meant how Linux keeps track of pin
controllers. Not pin mux. I should use different terminology perhaps
to reduce confusion.
g.
--
Grant Likely, B.Sc., P.Eng.
Secret Lab Technologies Ltd.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-11-23 17:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-10-15 18:14 [PATCH 0/6] Generic PWM API implementation Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 1/6] [PWM] " Bill Gatliff
2008-10-17 15:59 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-11-04 20:16 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-11-04 20:51 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-11-04 23:55 ` David Brownell
2008-11-05 0:17 ` Mike Frysinger
2008-11-05 2:59 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-11-05 5:08 ` David Brownell
2008-11-05 2:56 ` Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 2/6] [PWM] Changes to existing include/linux/pwm.h to adapt to generic PWM API Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 3/6] [PWM] Documentation Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 4/6] [PWM] Driver for Atmel PWMC peripheral Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 5/6] [PWM] Install new Atmel PWMC driver in Kconfig, expunge old one Bill Gatliff
2008-10-15 18:14 ` [PATCH 6/6] [PWM] New LED driver and trigger that use PWM API Bill Gatliff
2009-11-13 19:08 ` [PATCH 0/6] Generic PWM API implementation Grant Likely
2009-11-14 4:22 ` Mike Frysinger
2009-11-14 7:55 ` Grant Likely
2009-11-17 7:47 ` David Brownell
2009-11-17 15:48 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-17 16:53 ` David Brownell
2009-11-20 22:51 ` Grant Likely
2009-11-20 22:14 ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 14:12 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-23 17:39 ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 20:51 ` Albrecht Dreß
2009-11-28 21:38 ` David Brownell
2009-11-28 21:59 ` David Brownell
2009-11-17 15:45 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-17 8:27 ` David Brownell
2009-11-17 15:54 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-20 22:21 ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 14:13 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-23 17:40 ` Grant Likely
2009-11-23 15:29 ` Mark Brown
2009-11-23 17:44 ` Grant Likely [this message]
2009-11-23 18:09 ` Mark Brown
2009-11-28 21:54 ` David Brownell
2009-11-17 15:39 ` Bill Gatliff
2009-11-20 22:49 ` Grant Likely
2009-11-28 21:28 ` David Brownell
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