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From: "Ricardo M. Correia" <Ricardo.M.Correia@Sun.COM>
To: Andreas Dilger <adilger@Sun.COM>
Cc: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, Karel Zak <kzak@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH e2fsprogs] Add ZFS detection to libblkid
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 20:29:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1239650962.18123.44.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090407074033.GM3204@webber.adilger.int>

On Ter, 2009-04-07 at 00:40 -0700, Andreas Dilger wrote:
> > However, even though currently it's txg nr 4 that gets written first,
> > this is an implementation-specific detail that we cannot (or should not)
> > rely upon.
> 
> So my proposal to check the 0th, 4th, and 8th überblock in both
> the first and second VDEV label should be pretty safe.

Yes, that should be relatively safe :)

Where should I be sending patches for this? e2fsprogs, util-linux-ng,
libvolume_id in udev, ... all of them?

> > If this is not done, then maybe leaving the ZFS labels intact could be
> > better, so that the user has a chance to recover (some/most) of it's
> > data, in case he made a mistake.
> 
> Well, if ZFS is currently using this filesystem, then the kernel will
> have the block device open O_EXCL, which will prevent the mkfs from
> happening.

Not if the pool is exported :)

> Whether it will be a feature to "--force" mkfs to overwrite an ext3
> superblock or ZFS superblock is questionable.  The problem with needing
> "--force" is that people tend to hard-code this into their scripts
> (so that their script always works) and then due to only having a single
> "--force" flag it also forces other, possibly more destructive, behaviour
> (e.g. --force is needed to mke2fs on a file so that it can be mounted
> via loopback, but will also force mke2fs on a filesystem that actually
> IS in use, etc).

What about '--force-overwrite' or something similar?

It wasn't scripts that I was so concerned about. I think this filesystem
detection would be more useful when running mkfs in a shell, where it is
more likely for the user to make mistakes (e.g. mistype /dev/sdd1
as /dev/sde1 or /dev/sda1 as /dev/sda2).

Thanks,
Ricardo

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-13 19:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-30 18:20 [PATCH e2fsprogs] Add ZFS detection to libblkid Ricardo M. Correia
2008-06-02  7:41 ` Karel Zak
2008-06-02 15:03   ` Ricardo M. Correia
     [not found]   ` <1212418863.7337.34.camel@localhost>
2008-06-02 20:58     ` Karel Zak
2008-06-02 21:38       ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-02 22:31         ` Karel Zak
2008-06-02 23:11           ` Andreas Dilger
2008-06-03  0:05       ` Theodore Tso
2008-06-03  1:11 ` Theodore Tso
2009-04-04  2:39 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-04-04 13:04   ` Eric Sandeen
2009-04-04 21:25     ` Andreas Dilger
2009-04-04 21:46       ` Eric Sandeen
2009-04-06  6:25         ` Andreas Dilger
2009-04-06 19:22       ` Ricardo M. Correia
2009-04-06 20:13         ` Eric Sandeen
2009-04-13 19:18           ` Ricardo M. Correia
2009-04-13 19:27             ` Eric Sandeen
2009-04-06 20:35         ` Karel Zak
2009-04-07  7:40         ` Andreas Dilger
2009-04-13 19:29           ` Ricardo M. Correia [this message]
2009-04-17  9:51             ` Karel Zak

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